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I once read somewhere that earth was the insane asylum of the solar system. - AOD

LOL! But why just Earth? The Universe is a really big place? If reincarnation were real why couldn't we end up on some other planet far far away? And come back as something other than human on the other side of the Universe?

We come to this world screaming because we were so fine and comfy in non-existance.

\\"We come to this world screaming because we were so fine and comfy in non-existence." - Luciano//
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I knew a guy in college who was angry at his parents for having him. Or resented them for having him? He was serious to. He was a strange dude.

It becomes paradoxical doesn't it? If he believed he was not-existing before being conceived, then his parents having sex and conceiving him was not a slight on him, since he did not exist at that time.

Is just like when I was younger (though I still think of it) and tried to visualize the moment in which I would 'cease to exist' at my death, only to find out I was imagining some sort of immeasurable darkness in which I was still a witness to a "nothingness" of my own creation.

Death is not that, by definition.

As Alan Watts put it, "ceasing to be" is not an experience any one can have, even if that's to be our final destination.

Reincarnation is just another way of punishing people for being bad. Paying for our sins. More suffering and retribution and I think it's because people just can't imagine anything different than what is here? They can't imagine a place where the physics is completely different from where they are now? They think the duality and separation they experience here must exist there? If there is a heaven then there must be a hell?

They can't imagine a place where there is no punishment and everyone is healed and where everyone is welcomed home like the story of the prodigal son in the New Testament where we are welcome homed regardless of how sinful we were? Or like the Vineyard owner who pays everyone the same thing regardless of when they started working in the vineyard? Our preacher told me that people don't like those two parables in the New Testament because they don't understand them.

We all get the same reward in heaven and we are all equal. And it is the exact same thing the holographic universe theory predicts... we are all connected and one and our separation is an illusion. There is no one better than anyone else.

This whole life, the placed we are now, is just a cleverly designed school to teach us a few simple lessons, and we are little more than actors who are participating in our own education.

That's all it is, a "hoax or illusion" or "maya", where we learn even if we don't want to and where our lessons are embedded in our everyday lives and the things we are learning have very little to do with religion or morality but instead are about experiencing a different kind of physics, "soul stuff" or consciousness being in a body, time and space, what "out there" looks and feels like, and making memories of what it was like to live in a 3 dimensional + 1 time universe.

I wonder if that kid's name is "Arthur"? LOL!

Here's a musical accompaniment to the photo: "Another Time" by Pearls Before Swine in their album, One Nation Underground. (Apple makes it available to subscribers to its music service, along with zillions of other songs & classical music.)

Art
I think it is “Arthur”but we don’t call her Arthur anymore. We call her Miranda or “Missy” for short! - AOD

Art,
Miranda , that is “Missy”, will want to have a sex change when she gets to be 13 years old. She tells her parents that she has always felt like a boy (actually she does look like a boy). Her parents have agreed and ”Missy” will start hormone treatments soon. She plans to call herself “Arturo’ or
“Art” for short when she gets her breasts cut off and a penis implant. – AOD

Amos,

I saw your last comment earlier today, and was thinking about it as I walked home from the park. Some kids were skateboarding, and one of them called out a “hi” to me. It was a kid I had seen before—he’s friends with two brothers who are neighbors. I guess 11 years old or so, they hang out together a lot.

He surprised me by saying, “Hey what’s your name? We’ve never introduced ourselves.” So I told him, and he said, “I’m Lilia.” That surprised me, as it sounds like girl’s name. So we got to talking, and it turns out “he” is a she!

She said, yeah, I’m a tomboy. And if you saw her, you would never in a million years suspect that she isn’t a boy. She has a deep voice, is completely at home with her male companions, and has a pleasantly outgoing masculine way about her.

What a cool kid this is! We got to talking about her and her (fraternal) twin, a boy who is, as Lilia explained, the complete opposite of her. He’s shy and introverted—an indoor person, as compared to Lilia’s athletic, outdoor, ways.

So I asked her if, being opposites, they help each other learn different ways of being in the world. Lilia said that because her brother is shy, she’s had to learn how to gently draw people out, and that there are introverted kids at school who are really grateful for her presence.

I tell you, there’s not the least sign of neurosis or confusion about this girl. I’d love to have her confidence and joie de vivre! She is who she is, is proud of it, and she apparently brings a lot to the people she meets. I, for one, appreciated her getting me talking on an otherwise typical solitary day.

How she’ll change as she matures is hard to say, but it strikes me that she may well fit into that category of gender-benders you seem to be mocking. Sad to see you have so little compassion for a sizable segment of the population, people who were born into their own unique adventures, and who are no doubt dealing with their personal challenges with as much integrity as you are managing yours.

Yeah, as much as I appreciate AOD's comments in general, I found the one about "Missy" a bit mean-spirited. I actually considered not posting it, but decided I shouldn't extend my comment-moderation duties too far.

We all get pissed off at things and occasionally post opinions we later regret. I remember coming down pretty hard on a commenter who was worried about her at-risk husband at the height of the COVID lockdown; she wanted everyone to stay locked down, and I countered that it should be a matter of choice — not an unreasonable position, but the way I stated it was rude. I was angry at what I saw (and still see) as a misguided and destructive policy, and I let my bad mood get the better of me.

It's always best to be as polite as possible, and to remember that a variety of people who never comment probably read these threads. I'd hate to think that a real-life "Missy" would feel disrespected by this blog. Though I have my qualms about transgender hormonal treatment and surgery, especially when minors are involved, it's good to keep in mind that real people, often emotionally vulnerable, are struggling with these issues, and that we live in deeply confusing times.

I think some of you are especially sensitive today. My comments were meant specifically for Art as he has said that he doesn't want to come back and live his life over again. If Art came back as Missy, he would not be living his life over again. I think it is time for me to move on! -AOD

\\"And if you saw her, you would never in a million years suspect that she isn’t a boy. She has a deep voice, is completely at home with her male companions, and has a pleasantly outgoing masculine way about her. What a cool kid this is! We got to talking about her and her (fraternal) twin, a boy who is, as Lilia explained, the complete opposite of her." - Bruce//
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I was an Animal Science major in college and one of the required classes was reproductive physiology. One of the things we learned in that class is that when a cow has twins and one is male and one female the female twin will often be sterile. It is called a "free martin" and is caused by being exposed to an excess of testosterone in the womb.

I worked with a woman at the Uni. of TN Vet School who was born twin to a boy. She was a really sweet, likable, kind and lovely person and I really liked her a lot. She was rather masculine in appearance but she was really great with the animals and I really liked working with her. She died of ovarian cancer when she was in her early 60s and I sometimes wonder if her fairly early death might not somehow have been from her early exposure to testosterone in the womb?

What Is A Freemartin
"This condition causes infertility in the female cattle born twin to a male. When a heifer twin shares the uterus with a bull fetus, they also share the placental membranes connecting the fetuses with the dam. A joining of the placental membranes occurs at about the fortieth day of pregnancy, and thereafter, the fluids of the two fetuses are mixed.

This causes exchange of blood and antigens carrying characteristics that are unique to each heifers and bulls. When these antigens mix, they affect each other in a way that causes each to develop with some characteristics of the other sex. Although the male twin in this case is only affected by reduced fertility, in over ninety percent of the cases, the female twin is completely infertile."

http://www.thecattlesite.com/articles/975/what-is-a-freemartin/

I think this may be a teaching moment for me here. My comments were in response to Art when he asked, “I wonder if that kid's name is "Arthur"? LOL!”

Knowing that Art has made it perfectly clear that he doesn’t want to be reincarnated I responded with 6 sentences that I thought addressed Art’s question and tweaked him a bit about his disinclination to be reincarnated to live the same life over again. I tried to keep a light-hearted cordial response consistent with Art’s ‘LOL and my other comments on this blog. But I wanted to suggest to Art that it was possible that his next physical life could be entirely different from his current one in that he might come back as a female with sex identity issues. Perhaps it was too much to say that she would have her breasts cut off and a penis implant. (All routinely done in many female to male sex changes. )

If that offended anyone, I am truly sorry.

Help me out here. There are documented cases of sex changes when spirits reincarnate so what is “mean spirited” with commenting that “Arthur” has been reincarnated as a female now named Melissa or “Missy”? and that ‘Missy’ will remember her past life as Arthur and feel that she really is a male rather than a female. I think that reincarnation into a body of another sex explains some of the current cases of people who emotionally ‘feel’ that they really have a different identity, e.g. sex, race, skin color, etc. I acknowledge that they feel they are in the wrong body and I support their efforts to achieve a change in their body to agree with their spirit persona although I believe that that defeats the reason for being incarnated in whatever sex they find themselves in.

Bruce said about me that it is, “Sad to see you have so little compassion for a sizable segment of the population”. Well Bruce may be misinformed as he really doesn’t know how compassionate I may be about a multitude of issues in my daily life of which sex change may be just one.

I don’t think my six sentences were “mean spirited”. That certainly was not my intention. Help me to understand how those sentences could be considered to be “mean spirited’ so that I may grow a little bit more. -AOD

"Help me to understand how those sentences could be considered to be 'mean spirited' so that I may grow a little bit more."

The wording struck me as harsh: "when she gets her breasts cut off and a penis implant." Yes, this is what happens in a sex-change operation, but there are nicer ways of putting it. If I had a daughter who'd undergone this procedure, I doubt I'd appreciate someone saying, "I hear your kid got her breasts cut off." For that matter, if I had a wife who'd undergone a mastectomy, I wouldn't want to hear it described that way, either.

However, I accept that your comment was meant only as a humorous riposte, and I'm not stressing out about it.

“When these antigens mix, they affect each other in a way that causes each to develop with some characteristics of the other sex.”

Interesting! Thanks for sharing that, Art.

"I believe that that defeats the reason for being incarnated in whatever sex they find themselves in."

Consider this, Amos: maybe there's a spiritual reason for being born in a female body, but longing, with every fiber of your being, to be male. And maybe to go through life ignoring your soul’s promptings while pretending to feel otherwise, would be the *real* self-betrayal.

I’m thinking now of Caitlyn (Bruce) Jenner, who struggled to be a “normal male” through most of his life, but courageously embraced a deeper truth later on.

You seem to believe that these people have a choice about their sexual preference. They don’t. (And at least for some people, Art’s explanation may help us to understand why—at the biological level, anyway.)

“Well Bruce may be misinformed as he really doesn’t know how compassionate I may be about a multitude of issues”

I’m sure you are, Amos—I was referring only to this matter.

I am not aware Bruce that transexuals are fraternal twins. Do you know if there are any? - AOD

\\"If Art came back as Missy," - AOD//
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Which is my point exactly... if I came back as Missy I wouldn't be Art which defeats the whole purpose of which I believe we are here which is to become separate unique individuals.

If I were some kind of weird composite of a whole lot of different individuals then I would be some kind of weird schizophrenic chimera and have no individuality of my own. And in fact "Art" would no longer exist but instead I would have been devoured by some kind of mentally ill monster that you all have created in your creative way of trying to explain the evidence that exists for multiple personalities. I believe that my explanation is much simpler and makes much more sense.

Since young children haven't hardened their own sense of self they are tuning into the memories of former individuals who have died and it something more akin to a radio receiver being tuned between stations. The memories that they believe to be their own are just borrowed and eventually they start to forget those memories as their own sense of self becomes more firm. And those so called physical manifestations on their bodies are just "thoughts are things and consciousness creating reality."

As they become older and live their own lives they become their own separate unique individual self and their own person. Which I believe has everything to do with "why we are here."

The so called evidence for reincarnation has nothing to do with religion but in fact has more to do with the physics of our Universe and the holographic oneness and connectedness of the true nature of our universe.

"I am not aware Bruce that transexuals are fraternal twins. Do you know if there are any?"

Amos, I don't have a clue. I was just reacting to Art's comment on how these things happen with cows.

"I believe that my explanation is much simpler and makes much more sense."

Simplicity is subjective; Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker disagreed and considered reincarnation to be the simplest hypothesis in such cases.

"Since young children haven't hardened their own sense of self they are tuning into the memories of former individuals who have died and it something more akin to a radio receiver being tuned between stations."

So that hypothesis predicts that children will be able to access memories of various deceased, even deceased who lived during the same period. But it is not so, children access the memories of a deceased and only one, then reincarnation is the simplest hypothesis.

\\"So that hypothesis predicts that children will be able to access memories of various deceased, even deceased who lived during the same period. But it is not so, children access the memories of a deceased and only one, then reincarnation is the simplest hypothesis." -- Juan//
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Says who? Whom made up that rule? You? You ever heard a radio that was tuned between two stations? It picks up two stations... period. If a kid's brain hasn't developed a strong sense of self it may be tuning into the collective unconscious or "akashic records" and be "reading" someone else's life, holographically, which means that the information comes as a bolus of information, all at once. So you remember memories that aren't really your memories.

But as you grow older and you become your own person, a separate unique individual, you become you and those so called "memories" are pushed to the background, that is unless the adults around you keep reminding you of them and trying to convince you that you are reincarnated.

There are different ways of interpreting the evidence. A whole religion has been made up surrounding those borrowed memories, a religion with a whole bunch of religious hoopla attached which I suspicion is only so much hooey. Something else entirely may be going on, something that we aren't normally privy to, but sometimes the signals get crossed and it may be that way on purpose...

just so we'll sit here and argue (and get irritated with each other) so we both can experience more duality and separation. Which seems to be the main purpose of this life.

Lookit, I know you are married to the reincarnation story, and that's fine because neither one of us is going to change our tunes, so you believe what you want to believe and I'll believe what I want to believe and we'll both see when we get to the other side if either one us was anywhere near right?

"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.[1] It is an important type of cognitive bias that has a significant effect on the proper functioning of society by distorting evidence-based decision-making. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. For example, a person may cherry-pick empirical data that supports one's belief, ignoring the remainder of the data that is not supportive. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

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