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P.S. While countless people have helped me work out my ideas in this area, I think a special shout-out belongs to Matt Rouge and Eric Newhill, who seem to have directed my thoughts along these lines.

Very interesting outline, seems to correspond well with Dean Radin's Pyramid as described here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP6t-rRSBzw from 30min on.

Vallee's 'Passport to Magonia' seems to be along these lines when it comes to UFOs and abduction phenomena. He suggests these are intrusions from a higher dimensional space.

If you look at UFO sightings, they have evolved, from ships in the sky, to airships, to 'ghost rockets', to 'flying saucers' They seem to keep pace with technological developments, so it's not hard to imagine they are in fact 'translations' of higher dimensional intrusions which we would not be able to comprehend otherwise.

Thanks for the shout out, Michael.

This is an excellent summary. I'm going to re-read and comment in greater depth, but I have a New Age quibble...

New Agers typically refer to our world as 3D and the Astral as 4D. The Afterlife, at the least areas where most people go to, begins at 5D. I.e., the time "dimension" is not included.

Now, some may say that such a thing isn't worth worrying about, we New Agers being flaky and all, but such usage is really quite widespread.

I would also say that the higher dimensions are qualitatively different. Not that you said that they were not, but the Spaceland/Flatland analogy breaks down a bit in that there are no true physical objects in the higher dimensions. The Astral in particular is an unstable whirl of thoughtforms, while the 5th dimension has stable thought objects. That's why, 95% of the time, you will hear New Agers talk about 5D as a developmental goal to reach and not 4D.

Anyhow, I will comment more building on your succinct but rich exploration of these topics...

"...Eric Newhill, who seem to have directed my thoughts along these lines. "

Ha! God's honest truth. I'm alone in Tucson, AZ this week for a family matter that isn't working out well and was having some Tai dinner and a couple of blue margaritas (delicious and just what the doctor ordered, btw) and I was thinking of writing proposing a guest post along the very lines of the OP by Michael. I come back to my lonely room, flip on the computer and see what's up here and, voila! I kid you not!

Needless to say, I think Michael (and Matt) have it exactly right).

In my intellectual distractions from a some sad circumstances I was planning on adding that it's really more simple than some make it out to be. None of tis is an "illusion" as the guru types are often quoted as saying. This is real and so is that, because we are existing in these different dimensions simultaneously. What we are experiencing, on any dimensional level, is ourselves in a lock/key relationship with external bands of "vibrations" or "information", for lack of better terms. The illusion, if it may be called that, is thinking that what we are perceiving is the one and only.

I would also have added, as a digression, that there is no utopia in another world that is handed to us. Because all experience is us meeting us at whatever dimensional level that we happen to be open to and, thus, happens to be occurring to our conscious minds.

This is also related to the idea that "life is for learning" and "karma". Utopian thinking has it that this every day material world is an illusion that we experience so we can learn to not experience it any more - or to work off "bad karma" and get out of it. I'm not sure that is totally true as it's usually interpreted. I think, as Michael basically says, this world arises from a habitual focus that becomes a filter/control structure known as the "ego". We associate with the ego in this dimension, but, all along, our non-ego selves are already in the other dimensions.

Anyhow, too many blue margaritas talking. Great post Michael and thanks for the call out. Also, you and Matt and some others ere have helped me refine my understanding. A real community thing.

"Where we make an error is in mistaking the slice for the whole."
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Here's an excerpt from an interview. (I've posted this before):
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Upstairs in his Evanston, Illinois home, Dr. J. Allen Hynek leaned back in his office chair, puffed on his pipe and explained his thinking on the theoretical presence of UFOs in our world to Quinlan.

Between the nucleus of the atom and the outside electrons there is relatively as much space as between the sun and the planets. There is a lot of space in matter. Matter is almost a vacuum really.
There could be interlocking universes. The cultists have been saying that for centuries but that’s not science.
If I had to be pressed to the wall for a hypothesis I would say we live in a multi-dimensional spacetime continuum and the typical world we see around us represents a cross-section through that.
Look at the evidence that these things are reported to do. They appear very suddenly and disappear very suddenly. The question is where are they right now? Where is this thing that visited these two in Mississippi [Pascagoula Abduction] right now physically?
Time and again I’ve had reports of where a sort of fuzzy cloud appears around them and then the whole cloud disappears. Almost like ectoplasm disappearing into another dimension.
They violate gravity. They take off with enormous acceleration without any sonic boom. A physical object can’t do that. They make right angle turns. Any object with appreciable mass can’t do that.
They behave more like holographic images, like projections, more than physical things. Yet they produce real physical effects, stop cars, frighten animals, break branches, leave marks on the ground, and in that sense they are almost like poltergeist phenomena. Nobody knows what they are but they’re pretty well documented.
That is why I say think the UFO phenomenon is a signal of another domain of nature that we haven’t explored yet.

Michael, have you read "An Experiment with Time" by J W Dunne? It is an absolute must-read for you, he has already been there, he will blow your mind. Spacetime is already 4D, but do you envisage your higher dimensions as spacelike or timelike? Note that according to modern physicists any more than 3 spacelike dimensions are unstable and will collapse in the manner of string theory. Writing some 92 years ago, Dunne treated them as timelike. He developed a theory he called Serialism based on them and wrote several sequels.)

"Flatlanders"! A delicious dismissive dubbing for those whom Huxley called "nothing-but-ers." (aka "scoftics")!

I love trying to picture extra dimensions. I usually fail. My main problem is, how do you stop from bumping into yourself? Never mind all the extra edges. Imagine a mark five razor in 5D!

Wonderful and thought provoking post. I appreciate and tend to agree with parts of Dr.Hynek's theory. In the final analysis, everything is a form or manifestation of consciousness.

I am looking forward to your follow up thoughts and the comments.

Matt wrote, "New Agers typically refer to our world as 3D and the Astral as 4D. The Afterlife, at the least areas where most people go to, begins at 5D. I.e., the time 'dimension' is not included."

I wasn't aware of that, but I think common usage among non-New Agers is that our cosmos, the spacetime universe, is four-dimensional. Time has been considered the fourth dimension since Einstein developed his Relativity Theory. It would seem awkward to me to refer to our physical world as the 3D universe.

"I would also say that the higher dimensions are qualitatively different. Not that you said that they were not, but the Spaceland/Flatland analogy breaks down a bit in that there are no true physical objects in the higher dimensions."

Yes, any analogy will fail eventually. But I don't know of a better one. If the higher dimensions transcend space, then I would take it for granted that there are no physical objects in our sense (i.e., objects taking up space).

Eric wrote, "I would also have added, as a digression, that there is no utopia in another world that is handed to us."

I think it's likely that *temporary* utopias are available as rest stops between the more challenging planes. Summerland is the only example that seems to be widely attested. The system seems to be designed to afford an opportunity to recover from traumas and recharge the batteries before proceeding to the next struggle.

Steve wrote, "I love trying to picture extra dimensions. I usually fail."

I think it's impossible to visualize extra spatial dimensions. The human mind (i.e., embodied consciousness) just can't process it. That's why analogies are necessary, even though they will inevitably be imperfect.

Roger wrote, "'Flatlanders'! A delicious dismissive dubbing for those whom Huxley called 'nothing-but-ers.' (aka 'scoftics')!"

I didn't mean it derisively. In the analogy we're all Flatlanders while incarnated.

The Hynek quote is excellent and very apropos.

Guy wrote, "Michael, have you read 'An Experiment with Time' by J W Dunne?"

I started it years ago and put it aside for some reason. I still have it, and I should really go back and start over. The book was hugely influential in its day, especially among British intellectuals. Even Agatha Christie makes reference to it in some of her mysteries from that period. (She was interested in the paranormal.)

Great post. Thank you. I bookmarked it.

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