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Open Mind, I'm happy to look at those links, if you provide them. I don't know that much about Harry Price, though I do know he was involved in at least two major controversies - the Schneider affair, and the Borley Rectory investigation.

Michael, I would be happy to do so ... in a few days time, give you a few links and references .. I might reply in another thread in here or mail avoid the hydra-headed sock puppet in this thread (Hydra, your Palladino article has some errors :) )

Till then ... have Good New Year everyone.

Before going out to whoop it up on New Year's Eve, I thought I'd respond to this criticism from "Harry Price Fan," who is (obviously) the RationalWiki contributor known as "Forests," and who seems to be posting under a variety of screen names lately.

A little earlier in this thread, Forests/HP Fan wrote:

'Then compare those books to modern psi books such as RANDI'S PRIZE: What sceptics say about the paranormal, why they are wrong and why it matters which contains serious dishonesty.. see his chapter on Eusapia Palladino for example nowhere in the text does he mention the bulb or string trick of palladino etc, or the other many times she was caught cheating in the seance room by countless scientists. Note how Michael Prescott gave this book a five star review on amazon. This says a lot. Sorry but none of you guys are interested in truth, it is very sad to see.'

I just looked up Palladino in the index of Randi's Prize. Right under her name is the entry "caught cheating."

Let me repeat this. Forests/HP Fan complained, "... nowhere in the text does he mention ... the other many times she was caught cheating." Yet those exact words - "caught cheating" - appear in the index under the heading "Palladino, Eusapia."

In the text, Robert McLuhan gives specific examples of Palladino being caught in fraud, and even writes that "her use of the 'substitution' trick was notorious."

But you don't even have to read the book (which Forests/HP Fan clearly hasn't) in order to find out that the book covers Palladino's cheating; all you have to do is *check the index.* I guess he didn't bother to do that, either.

This is the commenter who, while using multiple screen names, accuses the rest of us of dishonesty. He writes: "It is very sad to see." Indeed it is.

Wishing you a happy and troll-free New Year!

You guys are just going to gloss over the prejudicial comments about sexuality as means of dismissing certain mediums? Even assuming that the accusations are true, what's so wrong about women or men engaging in sexual acts during a seance? Why is that considered the "darker side" of mediumship or the spritualist movement? I would think the darker side would involve actual harm of some kind not simply the same tired "scandalous" insinuations and prejudices of an uptight culture (Victorian values and now the remnants).

I think the accusation is that the medium used sex to manipulate the researchers and make them her accomplices in fraud. We've seem this accusation made against Carrington, for instance. But there is no evidence of any such behavior on his part; it's all speculation. And the coarse, slovenly Palladino was hardly a figure likely to inspire romance.

Similar accusations were made against William Crookes in his investigation of Florence Cook. There, at least, we do have statements by Crookes that have a certain sexual character, as when he describes embracing "Katie King" (the spirit) inside the cabinet. But I wonder if a married man with a guilty conscience would have written such a revealing passage. Maybe he would, if he had an unconscious desire to get caught. But another explanation is that he had nothing to be guilty about.

It is true, though, that some phony mediums - generally the materialization type - did engage in sex with their sitters in the dark, often while impersonating the sitter's deceased spouse. M. Lamar Keene discusses this in his tell-all memoir The Psychic Mafia.

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