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Shared enthusiasm, Michael. I pre-ordered the book thru Amazon and it is racing (via USPS's snail-like pace) toward my outstretched and greedy little meat hooks as I type this! Anxious anticipation, as I'll be cracking it open just after finishing Dr. Pim van Lommel's excellent book on consciousness survival. 2010 is an exceptionally good year to be alive and reading.

Meat hook update: Carter's book just arrived in today's post. Oh joy and rapture!

Thanks for the heads up about Chris Carter's book. It looks very interesting and I'm for sure going to read it.

I'm presently wading through Dr. Pimm Van Lommel's book on consciousness and I recently bought "Heaven and Hell" by Emmanuel Swedenborg from Amazon and I've also started reading it at the same time.

I promise to buy Chris Carter's new book and read it as soon as I finish reading Van Lommel's book. Maybe around Christmas time? It will be the next book I order from Amazon. I won't wait till I finish Swedenborg's book because it's going to take me a LONG time to finish it. But I must say, I've just started reading Swedenborg's book and and I've all ready stumbled across a holographic universe parallel.

Thanks, Michael. I'll buy it. Also glad to see the blog with a new topic. I was afraid to comment on the last one lest someone write a limerick about me! Just glad my names not Deloris (Sorry Seinfeld)

I'm going to read this. I'll also be looking forward to Chris's responses to the reviews on Amazon.

Whatever the responses, we can be sure of one particular type of comment: skeptics will say that it is all nonsense, pseudo-science and more of that kind of derogatory rantings, and, of course, that Carter should be ashamed of himself. Those skeptics do not seem to understand that their ad nauseam dislike of the generally accepted interpretations of the NDE is working against them.

Hey I got both the books yesterday. Started looking at Carter's book, skimming now. Be assured he does a very good job hammering pseudo skeptic arguments. But we knew he would :)

I ordered the book july 6, at the UK site. Now there is an estimation I'll get it delivered 5 Oct 2010 - 20 Oct 2010.. I wonder what's Amazon's problem with Carter's books? I think I had to wait more than a year after his last book was published until it could be ordered through Amazon (turned out I got two - the one I ordered from his publisher but I thought would never come tunded up after the Amazon book. Well, thus I could give one away to an interested friend.

Ordered it last night and I'm so excited! The results of the AWARE study come out this Saturday (I believe) I have a feeling they'll be less than exciting, so I'm hoping Cater's book will be a breath of fresh air.

"The results of the AWARE study come out this Saturday (I believe)"

Is it this soon? I didn't realize that.

It will be interesting to see how the study turns out, though I suspect the results will be more ambiguous than we would like.

"I promise to buy Chris Carter's new book and read it as soon as I finish reading Van Lommel's book."

Is there anything new in Pim Van Lommel's book? I read an excerpt and looked at the table of contents, and it seemed to me like a rehash of the same points we're all familiar with. As a result, I didn't buy it. But if the book actually does cover new ground, I'd be willing to hunt down the key to the rusty padlock on my wallet. Maybe.

Really? I thought AWARE was like years away still.

So we've had a lot of really interesting NDE books out lately that are really driving the subject home.

Maybe this is a proper buffer for when AWARE smashes into the legitimacy of the subject like a rhino.

Oh no, I could be wrong - I thought I had heard 9/11/10. I guess I should go double-check that. If it really is a few years off, I have to say that will be a bit of a relief, because I'm really not looking forward to what that study will do to mainstream NDE research if it produces a "negative" result.

Of course, as has been discussed on this site, all the other NDE research seems to be pointing toward the legitimacy of these experiences, so if the AWARE study does produce a contrary result, I would be more inclined to question the study than the reality of NDEs. Unfortunately, we all know the "skeptics" won't see it that way, and I feel like it's all going to be a bit depressing.

From Rudolf H. Smit:

MP said: Is there anything new in Pim Van Lommel's book? I read an excerpt and looked at the table of contents, and it seemed to me like a rehash of the same points we're all familiar with. As a result, I didn't buy it.

As an insider - I was one of Van Lommel's readers when he was writing the book; you can find my name in the Acknowledgement section - I can say that on NDE itself Van Lommel's book does not contain much news. No wonder, because the Dutch original was the first one having such a wide scope, and then of course it does rehash the same points discussed on this forum.

But certainly new is his attempt to develop a scientific model which is based on quantum physics. And that is where the book became vulnerable to extremely vicious attacks launched by a multitude of skeptics.

Van Lommel was in the USA quite recently: he lectured at the IANDS conference at the beginning of this month. He reported to me that he received a standing ovation, not only for his lecture but also for his book which, by the way, is selling well.


"The results of the AWARE study come out this Saturday (I believe)"

Can you link to a source of this information, please? thanks.

All about the Aware study, see

http://www.mindbodysymposium.com/Human-Consciousness-Project/the-AWARE-study.html

As far as I know the results will be issued somewhere in 2012

But certainly new is his attempt to develop a scientific model which is based on quantum physics. And that is where the book became vulnerable to extremely vicious attacks launched by a multitude of skeptics.

I must admit it also makes me immediately skeptical. Without even having reduced consciousness to particle physics it's premature to involve quantum mechanics. Personally I don't think we will ever understand consciousness as the human consciousness itself sets the limation for what we ultimately can grasp of reality. But I'm looking forward to read the book.

But certainly new is his attempt to develop a scientific model which is based on quantum physics. And that is where the book became vulnerable to extremely vicious attacks launched by a multitude of skeptics.

Plus it's available as an ebook ;-)

I must admit it also makes me immediately skeptical. Without even having reduced consciousness to particle physics it's premature to involve quantum mechanics.

Dear sbu: A bit premature, I'd say! First read the book, then give your verdict!

The chapters in question were written with the help of a physicist.

I'm enjoying reading Pimm Van Lommel's book but the truth is that so far nothing is extraordinairly new. There are no huge breakthroughs in the book - which is what we are all waiting for. It is written like a college textbook and the language is at a slightly higher level than many other NDE books. He talks about the connection between NDE's and the holographic universe which I am endlessly fascinated by.

"But certainly new is his attempt to develop a scientific model which is based on quantum physics. And that is where the book became vulnerable to extremely vicious attacks launched by a multitude of skeptics."

I agree. The attempt to use spin correlation and virtual photon entanglement seemed a bit unwieldy. For my money the VR hypothesis would have served him much better, no need to explain mind brain connections. I wrote him about this hypothesis but Mr. Van Lommmell was unware of the digital physics theories.

GregL

I wonder what new insights Chris Carter has to offer... Remember, current NDE research has been there since 1975 (Moody). So we are still at the beginning!

IN regard top Chirs Carter there is a good interview with him on the Subversivethinking blog, apologies in advance if that info came form this website but I think I discovered it via The Daily Grail.

My copy comes today and I will be happy to post a review.

On a similar note, Robert McCluhan's Randi's Prize has announced its publication date. If you read is (all too infrequent blog posts) on http://www.paranormalia.com/ you are probably looking forward to it as well.

Yeah, I'm sorry for the confusion about AWARE. I thought I had heard somewhere that they were going to talk about preliminary results tomorrow, but it looks like I'm wrong about that. I can't remember where I had heard it; I'm sorry for the misinformation.

Given the amount of criticism that parapsychologists receive from other scientists it is interesting (amusing in a sad way ) to read the following article:

A critique of comparative studies of brain size
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/274/1609/453.full

(a long article)
Many of the paragraphs have comments like the following:

it seems curious that checking for potential biases is rarely, if ever, carried out, and that data sources are not statistically included in the comparative analysis.

The second problem comes when authors combine the data produced from different studies using different methods, without clearly demonstrating that this is appropriate. This has been done on multiple occasions in order to increase the amount of data

This lack of rigour is highlighted by the use of vague terminology such as ‘brain space’ (Garamszegi & Eens 2004a), ‘neural space’ (Garamszegi et al. 2005a) and ‘cognitive potential’ (Byrne & Corp 2004). What do any of these terms actually mean?


I am presently reading two books at one time, Consciousness Beyond Life by Dr. Pimm Van Lommel and Heaven and Hell by Emmanuel Swedenbog. I find it rather strange that a 17th century mystic would make a statement that parallels or is congruent with something that a modern day Cardiologist says about our physical bodies and reality.
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"At a subnuclear level, the quarks and gluons that constitute the neutrons and protons of our body's cells are destroyed and regenerated within the time frame of a staggering small 10 to the minus 23 seconds. So in fact throughout our lives our bodies are destroyed and reconstructed once every 10 to the minus 23 seconds." - excerpt from Consciousness Beyond Life by Dr. Pimm Van Lommel, M.D. (page 281)

"This One is the First and whatever exists both in this world and in other realms of the Universe owes it's existence to it. We must not think of existing beings - both material and immaterial, animate and inanimate, animal and human, as standing in themselves. Rather their being has to be constantly replenished from the First, the source of all being. Everything depends on the First for strength and vitality. "If anything were not kept in constant connection with the First, through intermediate means, it would instantly collapse and disintegrate." Nothing stands in itself as a complete and independent substance; everything derives it's power of being from a transcendent, otherworldly source - from the One or the First." - Emmanuel Swedenborg, 17th Century Mystic
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It is also interesting to me that both statements have a very "holographic" flavor to them.

Art,sorry that I may be nitpicking but it is Pim van Lommel, not Pimm...

Thanks Rudolf! I'll try and remember that. The book was sitting on our coffee table in the living room and I'm back here in our guest bedroom on the computer. Our computer is in the back of our house in the guest bedroom.

The next book I buy from Amazon will be Chris Carter's book Science and the Near Death Experience. It might be around Christmas time. I'm wading through two big fat books right now. I'm actually enjoying Emmanuel Swedenborg's book. It's not as difficult to read as I thought it would be. There's some good stuff in it; meaning sort of "holographic universe" type stuff which is amazing considering it was written in the 17th century.

@Roger K

I'm in the UK and ordered from the Amazon UK site on the 4th of July. Mine has just been dispatched. Mind you it's being delivered by HDNL, so I might never see it.

I have been waiting for it for so long, I tried to start reading on it. I think I will have to delay this very philosophical book for awhile but I am just feeling "to heady" lately. I am a college student as well.......

Just received it about an hour ago. Got an Alex Scarrow book to read first though.

I'm 3 chapters into Chris Carter's book and let me say that it's not for the faint of heart. The chapter on the physics of the mind is dense and very technical; if you don't have at least some knowledge of quantum mechanics, you're going to be lost. Could have used an editor. That said, the content so far is deeply researched and compelling.

I've started reading the book, and I agree that it could probably have benefited from a better "hook" - i.e., a better way to draw the reader into the controversy.

Speaking of hooks, I clicked on Tim's link and found a website dedicated to a nonfiction book titled "The Chimp Who Loved Me." An excerpt from Chapter One:

"All I could think was 'Oh God! I'm going to be sexually assaulted by a chimp!' I pictured the 911 call. I saw the operator laughing so uncontrollably that she forgot to help. I tried to peel Sammy's pinching, prying hands off my naked, wet body and realized that I had to get clothes on..."

Now that's a hook!

I can't help being reminded of the 1985 Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest winner. Contestants vie to come up with an opening sentence that is as awful and off-putting as possible. Here is Martha Simpson's prizewinning entry:

"The countdown had stalled at T minus 69 seconds when Desiree, the first female ape to go up in space, winked at me slyly and pouted her thick, rubbery lips unmistakably – the first of many such advances during what would prove to be the longest, and most memorable, space voyage of my career."

I've always remembered that one.

Since I'm on the subject, here's the 1986 winner, penned by Patricia E. Presutti:

"The bone-chilling scream split the warm summer night in two, the first half being before the scream when it was fairly balmy and calm and pleasant for those who hadn’t heard the scream at all, but not calm or balmy or even very nice for those who did hear the scream, discounting the little period of time during the actual scream itself when your ears might have been hearing it but your brain wasn’t reacting yet to let you know."

Finally, here is the actual opening sentence of Edward George Bulwer-Lytton's 1830 novel, "Paul Clifford":

"It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents--except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness."

Which I don't think is really so bad, do you?

Glad you liked it, Michael. That's my first self-published book after years of ghostwriting (and publishing, thankfully) nonfiction books for others.

It's not an opening sentence, by the way, but from a section midway through that particular story.

"It's not an opening sentence, by the way, but from a section midway through that particular story."

Yes, I know. I read the longer excerpt. As an opening sentence, it might have been a little too much!

Congratulations on your book's publication. It's a good title, and a lot of people out there enjoy animal stories, so I hope you find your readership.

Michael if you write a book about life after death I would probably buy it but I don't read too many fiction books, especially murder mystery stuff. I don't like to watch TV shows like CSI or Law and Order either. The truth is that I really don't care who did it. I hate courtroom dramas especially. YUCK!

"Michael if you write a book about life after death I would probably buy it"

Probably?

Only "probably"?!?!

Come on, Art, you would DEFINITELY buy it!

And so would at least seven other people.

:-)

I'd certainly buy it.

Well I'd have to put it on my list. It would depend on the price too. I buy a book from Amazon.com about every other month or so. Most recently I bought the book Swedenborg's Heaven and Hell and the month before that I bought Consciousness Beyond Life by Pim Van Lommel. I'm looking forward to Chris Carter's book and will probably break down and buy it around Christmas time.

"Which I don't think is really so bad, do you?"

It's very portentous, which makes it the opposite of minimalistic modernism.

Here's a long Smithsonian article about an incredible but now-forgotten medium from St. Louis who flourished from 1913 to 1937, Pearl Curran.

"Patience Worth: Author From the Great Beyond"

Thanks for the link to the article, Roger.

Pearl Curran is by no means a forgotten medium.

It is a very interesting read indeed.

John Turner and Raymond Moody on Coast-to-Coast radio Monday night (10 pm to 2 am Pacific time).

FYI, I've been slow in finishing Chris's book because of some personal matters that are taking up most of my time, but I've enjoyed what I've read of it so far. It's concise, well argued, and intellectually serious.

Is there anything new in it? I finished Consciousness Beyond Life last night. What I found with Dr. Pim Van Lommel's book is that it is sort of a compilation of a lot of other books that I've read. Ervin Lazlo's Science and the Akashic Record, Peter Russell's From Science to God, etc. Nothing really new or Earth shattering that I hadn't all ready figured out for myself. I've read so many of these books now that there doesn't seem to be anything new to say about near death experiences or life after death. No new or fresh ideas. I want to read something new and Earth shattering about life after death that I haven't all ready read somewhere else. Something new for me to think about and ponder.

I'm tired of the same old - same old things reading books about near death experiences. I wish something really new and innovative would come out. I've got about 80 books in my life after death collection and a lot of them are very repetitive. I'm ready for a big breakthrough. Something new and exciting.

Raymond Moody was on Coast to Coast AM radio last night. Here's how C2C summarized his appearance the day after:

"Dr. Moody's forthcoming book, Glimpses of Eternity, features accounts of shared death experiences, wherein "a loved one dies in bed, and the bystanders feel like they get out of their bodies, and go part way to the light with the dying love one. People will tell me that as their loved one dies, the room fills up with this extraordinary light that permeates everything," said Moody. Further, there are reports that the geometry of the room changes, distorting into an hourglass shape, for instance, and heavenly music is heard "coming from nowhere." It's as though death is a kind of window into something else, said Dr. Moody, and "some sort of transdimensional consciousness...can be opened up by the death of someone," and can spread out to people nearby, or even several states away."

"Is there anything new in it?"

I haven't read all of it yet, but I doubt there's anything new in the sense of new evidence. I don't think there *is* any new evidence at this point. But the book does a good job of building a case for the validity of NDEs as spiritual experiences.

"I'm ready for a big breakthrough."

Careful what you wish for! The next big breakthrough may be the AWARE study, and who knows if that will yield any evidential results? The big breakthrough could be that nobody sees the targets ...

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