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EW Silvertooth also did experiments on the discredited ether showing based on his experiments that it indeed exists.

"The Michelson-Morley experiment, which did not show any translational motion through an aether or other medium of propagation, was later shown to have a fundamental flaw: The standing waves that are reflected back onto a mirror become phase locked on the mirror, and hence to its motion through space. Silvertooth built a standing wave experiment that avoids the phase locking encountered in the Michelson-Morley setup. It uses a configuration similar to the Sagnac experiment, which many years ago did detect motion relative to an aether. Silvertooth's addition was a sensor capable of measuring the spacing between standing wave nodes".

Very interesting, Leo. Thanks.

Googling "Silvertooth + ether" brings up a lot of hits. From what I can gather, there are renegade elements within the physics community who believe Silvertooth's results deal a major blow to relativity theory. But this is very much a minority view at present.

Excerpt from an online paper that reports the controversy without taking sides:

"Some scientists say that the ether exists and that the M- M experiment didn't measure it. One such scientist is H. Aspden, who claims that the ether is attached to the earth--it is a 'localized ether.' Consequently the M-M experiment didn't measure the ether because it was only designed to measure the linear motion of the earth through space, not rotational motion of the earth through space. Another scientist is E. W. Silvertooth, who claims that any laser interferometer experiment analogous to the M-M experiment would give a null result. His idea is that the frequencies of the interfering beams are themselves dependent upon velocity relative to a fixed frame. Therefore the frequency will adjust exactly to cancel any effect due to the motion through the light-reference frame, and a null result is an inevitable consequence....

"Other scientists say that an ether doesn't exist, but that a better explanation must exist for the appearance of light as waves in many situations (one example is double-slit experiments)....

"The question is also important with relation to absolute frames of reference in physics. An ether signifies a fixed frame of reference that scientists can use in their measurements of the universe. Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity says that no such frame of reference exists, i.e. all motion is relative. The finding of an ether would shatter that hypothesis."

For instance, he makes much of the ether, a substance thought by an older generation of physicists to pervade the universe. Today's physicists have discarded the theory of the ether, though there are occasional attempts to revive it in modified form. -- MP

It's possible that the "ether" consistently referred to by "etherians" (afterlife spirits) is not exactly the same ether discarded by scientists.

I'm speculating, but it seems to me that, if we give some credibility to afterlife messages, then the ether referred by them is possibly existent as an spiritual component instead of a physical entity/substance.

In any case, regarding the doubts about the Ether having been debunked definitively, in the Alternative Science website yopu may read an article entitled "Ether - a null result, or an anulled result?" that deals with this controversy:

On this basic structure the student may build up his arguments when he engages the materialist in discussion. He can account, for instance, for loss of memory in the ageing man or woman, by the fact that the soul can no longer effectively impress the deteriorating physical brain. The machine is too worn to be responsive. On the other hand, the memory of the individual is retained and registered very fully in the unifying body. This body does not imitate its companion and gradually decay as the years pass. In my previous book I have called it the "husk," for it contains and shelters the nascent manifestation which is to be eventually the body of the soul in the world after death.

This reminds me of the debate on the "Rovin" post. That paragraph confirms some version of the transmission hypothesis, modified by the operation of the etheric body on the physical body.

During sleep, this body [i.e., the etheric double] receives the soul and feeds the physical shape with life units, with nervous force, and resembles in every particular the human form. All the organs are similar, and it is indeed as an image or reflection in a glass. But it vibrates with greater intensity; and when a man's life draws to a close the subliminal self commences its work of developing the etheric shape within the double. This again will resemble the man as he appears to his friends; but it will be in the prime of life, or will image youth, particularly if a man passes from the physical plane before he reaches his three score years and ten ...

This is amazingly consistent with the information gotten by Arthur Findlay in his "nights of intructions", as explained in the book On the Edge of Etheric:

Mind does not merely communicate through the mechanism of the brain. It is in indirect contact with other physical centers such as the ductless glands, the solar plexus and the sacral plexus. But the soul has to work through the medium of the double and never directly commands matter. Always there is this unifying body which comes between the self and his outward appearance in the material world ...

From the perspective of the transmission theory, if that paragraph is true, it adds some qualifications to that theory.

The brain is not transmitting consciousness directly, but indirectly (through the etheric body).

This aspect is important because, if true, we (our souls) have at least two embodied minds:

-A physical embodied mind.

-An etheric embodied mind.

When living on earth, we use both of them for our mental functioning. They do analogous and simultaneous functioning, but in different levels or dimensions of reality (the etheric one and the physical one) according to the evolutive spiritual needs of each soul.

After death, we don't have the physical embodied mind anymore, but we conserve the etheric embodied mind. If correct, it would explain why memories, skills and other mental components gotten in life will persist after death.

The etheric brain carries this information.

The soul has an etheric body and, when functioning in the physical realm, a physical body too (a duplicated of the etheric body). So the soul is not transmitting a direct signal on the physical brain, but operating it indirectly by mediation of the etheric body.

The introduction of an etheric body modififies, partially, the transmission hypothesis as usually discussed or interpreted.

Another problem is: Is there independent evidence for the existence of an etheric body?

I'd suggest this:

Some alternative medicine (specifically, "energetic medicines", like acupunture or homeopathy) supposedly works directly on the "energetic body", not on the physical body.

For the sake of the argument, let's assume that these medicines works. If true, it suggests that the existence of a etheric (energetic) body is real, and it could be reached and changed (by several means) in ways favoring or damaging the physical body.

So, energetic medicines, assuming some of them actually works, provide us as some independent evidence in favor of the existence of an etheric body (a non-physical body underlaying, supporting and controling the physical one).

Also, some of these medicines use the ancient concepts of "chakras", and this seems to be consistent with this paragraph:

Emotion may be said to be a force that is of an electrical type and can radiate outwards from the human being. The ductless glands are primarily related to the emotional nature and may be called the emotional brain. The soul, working through the double, affects these glands and they in their turn can change the chemical composition of the blood. When the mind fails to function adequately through the channel that connects it with a certain gland the character of the individual alters, and strange abnormalities occur. These are sometimes due to some weakness in the double, or, on occasions, to a fault in the soul when controlling mind. Usually, the soul should be held responsible for the vagaries of the glands, for inadequate or excessive secretions ...

In some alternative medicine literature, the chakras are presented as connecting the energetic body with specific emotions and glands. So, each chakra corresponds to some gland, to some emotions and to some organs too.

There is, at the bottom, an interesting consistency between the most reliable afterlife messages and some alternative medicine literature. But this connection hasn't been explored in depth, as far I know.

Finally, in Arthur Findlay's book On the Edge of Etheric, when he asked "What is the mind? Is it something apart of the brain?", he got the following reply:

"Certainly it is. You bring your mind over here with you. You leave your physical brain on earth. Our mind here acts on our etheric brain and through it on our etheric body, just as your physical brain acts on your physical body"

In addition to confirming mind-body dualism, the paragraph is intriguing because it asserts that our etheric body includes a etheric brain too (bear in mind the etheric body is a perfect duplicate of the physical one) and that our mind and soul are different of the etheric body too.

So, our soul is not reducible to our etheric brain either. We wouldn'd be our etheric bodies.

If all of these afterlife messages are correct, or point out to some real information, then many of the philosophical debates on mind-body connections and dualism are misguided.

The simplistic and crude Cartesian view of an "immaterial soul" interacting with a "material body" wouldn't be representative of the real states of the things.

We have to add to the equation the etheric body, as an intermediary between the soul and the (physical) brain.

And the idea of a disemboided mind surviving death is misleading too, because in afterlife, we survive with another kind of emboided mind: a mind embodied in an etherical brain, which carries on the information stored in the physical brain.

And being the etherical body an spiritual and non-biological (but solid and tangible) substance, then the idea of a purely immaterial substance or ego surviving death wouldn't be accurate.

Perhaps some of us have to reconsider our dualistic positions in the face of the evidence (if it exists) suggesting the existence of an etheric body.

The soul could be immaterial in a Cartesian sense; but maybe it is not the immediate and definitive condition of the soul after physical death; the etherical body would be just another (much more subtly) of the instruments that the soul uses for their ends and experiences in different dimensions.

Maybe a new "mind-brain etherical dualism" is needed.

(Maybe in 150 years, we'll find Keith Augustine in the afterlife defending the idea that our soul "is" produced by our etherical brain, and that if you destroy the latter, the former perishes too, confirming an slightly modified version of the production hypothesis and the close dependence of conciousness on a brain, making him right after all... just a joke Keith :-)

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