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What all of these seem to be assuming is that God is "out there" and you and I are "in here". And that whether god is personal, impersonal or both, we are definitely persons.

I would suggest going back to the foundational question. Before worrying about what "God" is, what are *WE*? Are we really these separate personalities inside a body with egos and moods and free will. Or is someone telling and experiencing a story about that?

>What all of these seem to be assuming is that God is "out there" and you and I are "in here".

I don't think Chopra is making that assumption, at least from what I can tell on the basis of this quote.

I gravitated most to Deepak Chopra's explanation, which goes against the religion in which I was raised. But I found something that spoke to me in all three, although the last one was more abstract and therefore harder for me to grasp.

Heavens, no wonder I was a cafeteria Catholic.

Now I'm just in a foxhole.

God is everywhere, He loves you, has a relationship with you, and with everyone. Yet He is everywhere. Since He can do all things, He can have those kinds of relationships with all of us. Everything is not God, mind you, but God is present in everything. God is not just a "substance". He is an all powerful being. Not a person the same way we are, but One who knows all things and can do all things.

Man is a seperate entity, apart from God, and apart from the created order. He is in rebellion against God, because of sin. God does not become a part of us at any time. The Holy Spirit can work in us to change us, etc., but we are seperate beings, with free will.

In a holographic universe we exist inside the mind of God. Our minds work holographically and so does God's. We have a holographic mind embedded in a holographic universe. For all intents and purposes, we exist inside the mind of God.

excerpt from The Holographic Universe:
"For if the concreteness of the world is but a secondary reality and what is "there" is actually a holographic blur of frequencies, and if the brain is also a hologram and only selects some of the frequencies out of this blur and mathematically transforms them into sensory perceptions, what becomes of objective reality? Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the religions of the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion, and although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical world, this too is an illusion."

http://www.earthportals.com/hologram.html#zine

- Art

"Man is a seperate entity, apart from God, and apart from the created order. He is in rebellion against God, because of sin. God does not become a part of us at any time. The Holy Spirit can work in us to change us, etc., but we are seperate beings, with free will." - Althusius
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Or, God is so smart that He has created a perfect world where we learn what it is we are supposed to learn, whether we want to or not! Everyone experiences duality and separation, time and space, and encodes memories on their consciousness -- whether they want to or not. This earth life is a school, and we are here to learn just a few simple lessons. Politics, religion, race, culture, language, gender, sexual orientation, looks, weight, height, the bumps on noses, crooked teeth, everything about us teaches us what it means and how it feels to be separate, unique, individuals. Everyone experiences time and space - in a Universe in which time and space aren't quite as real as what we might believe them to be, and everyone forms memories of what it was like to have a physical body. Every scratch, every itch, when we stub our toe, brush our hair, every feeling, teaches our consciousness our soul the parameters of what a physical body felt like. The more emotional the experience, the more powerful and long lasting the memory it creates.

As far as "free will?" I'm no longer all that sure about that one. Free will may be an illusion. - Art

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