I haven't said anything about everyone's favorite materialization medium in a while, because there's really been nothing to say. But recently, commenters Gaylord Pompledinkler (!) and J Richards pointed me to a discussion about David Thompson at the Spiritualist Chat Room. (To see the thread, you need to register with the site, then click on "Spiritualist Philosophy" and then on "Spirit Guides.")
It's fun stuff.
First, David Thompson himself enters the chat room to talk about his spirit guides:
I have a few guides that work with me, my main friend and contact is:
William Charles Cadwell, who passed in 1897.
(William was check up by the SPR when Monty Keen did his report into my mediumship and was found)
Timothy Booth.
(he helps draw out the ectoplasam for the physical seances)
White Soaring Bird. (Door Keeper) ...
Jack (Surname unknown) ...
Dr Theobold Slavinski (Cardivasculor surgeon) helps with healing and psychic surgery.
Shortly afterward, someone named Leo joins in. He is not at all skeptical about Thompson and reports that he's looking forward to an evening with Thompson.
Next week I am visiting a Dave Thompson psychic surgery evening..... a Dr Slavinski.... think I got that right.... comes through him.... I have googled the doctor's name wondering if he has lived on earth under that name, but found nothing.... not that it matters, I am still looking forward to the experience.
But Leo's perspicacity in Googling the good doctor's name is an ominous sign of things to come. Soon, like the title character in one of those Poltergeist movies, he's baaaack ... asking about Thompson's claim that the Society for Psychical Research (SPR) verified the earthly existence of his main spirit guide.
I wonder, would David be so kind as to produce an extract from the SPR report that refers to the finding of William Charles Cadwell. I am curious to know about what was found of this guides life and death and how it might have confirmed his existence.
Now, I've read Montague Keen's report on the Thompson seance he attended, and it says nothing about verifying the existence of William Cadwell. (You can read it, too. Right here.) So it would appear that the SPR did not, in fact, check out William's identity.
On his next visit, Leo describes himself as "a rather dispirited Spiritualist."
When I wrote last time I was quite excited by David Thompson's remark about his main spirit friend and contact William Charles Cadwell who passed in 1897 and that this William Cadwell had been checked out by the SPR and Monteque Keen and was found to exist.
I had a look around and found that William Cadwell was according to David Thompson's website born in 1830.
I thought I would try to find out more and so looked at the Government Record Office Death Registrations (what used to be called the St Catherine Deaths Index) and I also looked at the Census records for 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891.
There was no point looking for a birth registration because it was not until the second half of 1837 that such registration came into effect. Without a known place of birth it would be very difficult to establish the church where a person was baptised in 1830.
Anyhow, I have decided to let people on the Spiritualism Chatroom know what I found.
In brief - NO William Charles CADWELL died in 1897, nor did a William Cadwell or a Charles William.
No such person died the year before or after either.
In the 1841 census records there was NO William or William C Cadwell born 1830 anywhere in England. Because in the 1841 census records ages were rounded down (eg 43 would be recorded as 40, 47 as 45 etc) I next checked the 1851 census and found just 8 William Cadwell - NONE were born in 1830.
There was one William Charles Cadwell found in the 1851 census records - he however was born in 1843 in Chelsea. Sadley he died in the December Quarter of 1865 in Chelsea - so cannot be considered a possible for David Thompson's William Charles Cadwell.
The subsequent census records also do not show any William Cadwell born 1830 - so all such records fail to show this purported guide who plays such a vital role in David Thompson's physical mediumship and seances.
Feeling frustrated I took a look for Tmothy BOOTH the child guide who is said to play an important role in the seances. He is said (on the circle of the silver cord website) to have been born in 1899 and died in 1908.
Oh dear!!! There were NO Timothy Booth's born in 1899 anywhere in England. There were NO Timothy Booth's who died in 1908....
Are these personalities just alter-go's? Is David Thompson being duped by spirit entities? Is he too a fraud? ...
Once again I ask David Thompson to provide the Spiritualism Chatroom with the evidence found by the SPR and Montegue Keen that would refute the evidence of my research into this matter. Should I wait in hope of an early response or expect a deathly silence?
Someone named IceBlue repsonds thusly:
If william isn't who he says he is,how would this make david a fraud?If montegue keen found the info so can we,but iam sure david will enlighten us.
Hmm. Well, if William isn't who he says he is, then why should we think he's anything other than a persona created by David Thompson to fool people in the dark? As for Montague Keen, there is no reason (other than Thompson's assertion) to think that he found out anything about an earthly William Cadwell.
Eventually we hear from David Thompson again. He is quite above it all.
Oh! dear how people speculate and put on public forums there thoughts that are not always right.
So for the very last time for.
1. Monty Keen did a report that can been see on the website Zerdini published on these threads.
2. the report was also done with Guy Lyon Playfair who did the checks on William and found him, I will ask the lady who is a member of this site to put up the recent email she recieved from Guy Lyon Playfair regarding William and his exsistance.
3. Am I a materialization medium, to be honest judge for yourself or listen to others, up to you.
To be honest, when I joined SCR it was a great site with a lot of nice people, but now it seems to have turned into a bitchfest on everyone.
Please now feel free to say what you will about me and my mediumship and to be honest I dont really care, this will be my last post here.
So it seems the disgruntled medium is taking his baseball and going home. Prickly types, these mediums. I guess that's why they're called "sensitives." Rather than answer a straightforward question, Thompson spins excuses and then quits the group.
Leo will not let him off the hook quite so easily, though.
Well it was a pleasure to see Mr Thompson give a reply to what I had written about William Charles Cadwell though I notice that he fails to mention young Timothy Booth claimed to have been born 1899 and died 1908 who also did not exist!
Let me say it again, and please do anyone on the list that is still in contact with DT pass this on, NO William Charles Cadwell died in 1897 as DT has claimed for a long time.
There was indeed a William Caldwell [note the different spelling of his last name - MP] who died in 1899 aged 67 so born 1832/3 not 1830 and please note everyone he was not recorded as William CHARLES Cadwell and if that had been his name that is what the death record would have said!!!
Now let DT ask his so called guide who his parents were and whether he married and what his wife's name might have been.
And let him explain why we suddenly have the name Guy Lyon Playfair appearing now as the source that found William Charles Cadwell and how this connects to his statement that it was the SPR and Montague Keen who found William Charles Cadwell.
As to Dt's comment: Oh! dear how people speculate and put on public forums there thoughts that are not always right.
Firstly, let me respond by saying what I wrote was not speculation it was fact. Second what I wrote was not my thoughts it was cold hard evidence and it IS RIGHT.
By all means let the lady who has the email from Playfair put it up. All it can say is what I have already said above: a William Caldwell died in 1899 in the registration district of Leigh Vol 8c page137. Not William Charles Cadwell. Not 1897. Not born 1830.
So DT has a guide who doesn't know when he was born and doesn't know when he died. What else doesn't he know I wonder.
Again I say to DT what about young Timothy Booth?
Of course, DT has, having thrown in his spurious information, spat the dummy and run away.
I have not taken part in what he calls a bitchfest. I have merely stated the truth. If the truth causes DT a problem then there has to be something wrong.
Yes, indeed. Let's quote that last sentence again:
If the truth causes DT a problem then there has to be something wrong.
Now I suppose we might give David Thompson the benefit of the doubt and say that "Caldwell" is pretty close to "Cadwell," and 1832 is pretty close to 1830, and 1899 is pretty close to 1897. It's a stretch, though. Why couldn't "William" get the facts right? Was he wrong about his middle name, too?
Then there's the total absence of Timothy from the records. Well, maybe he was a street urchin whose death went unrecorded. Maybe ...
But what about Thompson's claim that Montegue Keen verified William's existence? And his claim that Guy Lyon Playfair verified it, as well? I have not seen any evidence to support these assertions. The least Thompson could do is point us to a magazine or Web site that includes the relevant articles. (My Google search for "Guy Lyon Playfair" + "David Thompson" turned up nothing relevant - no indication that Playfair has written anything about Thompson at all.)
Most interesting of all was David Thompson's reaction to a few serious questions from an admirer.
He ran away!
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