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Victor and Wendy Zammit's "Friday Afterlife Report" has an imbedded video of Dr. John Hagelin commenting about consciousness as related to modern 'String Theory' and 'Universal Consciousness'. His comments and discussion might tie in to what Seth was trying to explain through Jane Roberts. While I don't understand completely either Seth or Hagelin it seems to me that there might be some similarities between the two attempts to explain consciousness and multiple realities. - AOD

http://victorzammit.com/August10th2018/

Nice review, Michael. I always appreciate the work you put into your posts. Very informative.

This is probably the last three-part review I’ll do. Even I was bored by the end!

Excellent summary Michael.

As stated previously, 'The Seth Material' is still very hit and miss, but once you get to Seth/Jane Robert's first proper book, 'Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul', then the quality of the material fully hits its stride. it's certainly more hit than miss from there on.

Great review - really gets into what's really dense material.

One interesting thing Seth said was that a group of people in distress, such as experiencing poverty and sickness, can somehow cause natural disasters to bring attention to themselves! I don't see how anyone could believe that. On the other hand, I thought a good part of the material in "The Nature of Personal Reality" the most credible - or at least more easily understandable. Seth, for instance, does a great job of outlining Western versus Eastern thoughts and belief - I thought his statements particularly insightful regarding both the nature of Islamic terrorism, for instance, and predatory capitalism.

It still all seems to boil down to whether one believes one can significantly affect their material existence by changing one's thoughts. While the Placebo research does show that thoughts and beliefs can at least somewhat affect the material, I'm highly skeptical - regardless of books like "The Secret." But I do think one's thoughts and ingrained beliefs can very much affect one's health to a significant extent.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss mass belief systems Kathleen. I have often thought that perhaps survival of consciousness, that is an afterlife, exists if one believes that it exists. Those who don't believe in it have no afterlife. Well, apparently that is maybe not true as some atheists and agnostics (I am loosely equating a belief in God with belief in an afterlife) have reported an NDE (Near Death Experience) which may suggest that they too experience a life after death regardless of their belief system. So maybe an individual belief system is not able to override a mass belief system of which there may be more people who do believe than those who don't thereby affecting the reality of an afterlife.

There are also cases of mass hysteria where one person at a picnic gets sick from, let us say, food poisoning and 20 other people at the picnic get sick also because of their beliefs although they did not eat the incriminating food. Similarly there are mass hallucinations where crowds of people see the sun spiraling and plunging toward earth as part of a devout religious experience because they believe it to be true.

I am concerned that in the world today, there are increasing masses of people with belief systems that may be generating hatred, war, climate change, world temperatures , and ocean levels, not necessarily because of man-made carbon dioxide production and release into the atmosphere but simply because they all believe it to be the case. That mass belief system may become invincible once it reaches a critical mass regardless of anything humans may be actually doing. As a result we may in fact for whatever cause begin to see changes that impact in a negative way upon humans and the planet in general just because we all believe it to be true. Thereby we have all created our own reality.

I recall the even Jesus is reported to have said something along these lines when---and I don't recall this accurately---but wasn't there something about getting answers to prayer when two or more people are gathered together. If we are part of one whole spiritual being, then I think that each individual must monitor their thoughts and belief systems to insure that when such thoughts are accumulated in mass, that is, in the creative whole, that the reality for humans will be one of positive outcomes.

On an individual level of beliefs there are documented cases of people with multiple personality disorder where one personality suffers from some medical condition or disease while the other personalities are free of this disorder. I recall that there were cases where one personality had severe allergies, while the alter did not have the allergy. And the Lurancy Vennum and Mary Roff case of possession clearly shows that the possessing personality, Mary Roff did not have the illnesses that Lurancy Vennum had. (Also see the Sally Beauchamp case.) These cases are very interesting to me in that all personalities in multiple personality disorder (dissociative identity disorder) inhabit the same physical body but not all are affected by the disorder or illness when occupying the body. Apparently there is more to inhabiting a body; what is happening in the spirit as a belief system also has an effect.


I think we are in the midst of a major change in the genetics of the human population, maybe for better or worse, but it is consistent with other human genetic population changes that have occurred in the past millennia where sub species and varieties of humans mingled and eventually merged into a new human species. In the outcome something good will be lost; let us hope that something better will be gained. In a way it seems to be all planned on a cosmic scale by an omnipotent thought or belief system regardless of the wishes, thoughts and beliefs of the individual people currently living through that change today.

As an after thought, I wonder if a mass belief that the earth was flat actually made it flat but that changing to a belief that it was a sphere made it so and thereby created a planetary belief system?

Well, maybe not! - AOD

AOD, if you'd like to see evidence of mass hysteria and mass belief, do some research on the Jersey Devil. It's amazing. In 1909, hundreds of people reported seeing it. People still report seeing it.

Seth would probably agree that the warming of the atmosphere is being caused by a mass belief system. When I first read about Seth's theory, I immediately thought of the disasters that have hit Haiti.

I do believe that our beliefs and thoughts can certainly affect our health. How far, I don't know. There is such a medical term as "broken-heart syndrome," which refers to a person who develops heart problems due to the stress of prolonged grief.

As for the Jersey Devil, I'm grabbing this from Wikipedia:

"During the week of January 16 through 23, 1909, newspapers of the time published hundreds of claimed encounters with the Jersey Devil from all over the state. Among alleged encounters publicized that week were claims the creature "attacked" a trolley car in Haddon Heights and a social club in Camden.[18] Police in Camden and Bristol, Pennsylvania supposedly fired on the creature to no effect.[19] Other reports initially concerned unidentified footprints in the snow, but soon sightings of creatures resembling the Jersey Devil were being reported throughout South Jersey and as far away as Delaware[20] and Western Maryland.[21] The widespread newspaper coverage created fear throughout the Delaware Valley prompting a number of schools to close and workers to stay home."

Thanks Kathleen for direction to 'The Jersey Devil'. Probably a very good example of human hysteria lasting over hundreds of years; similar to the Sasquatch man/ape. Makes me want to question almost everything people say about the paranormal. I do agree with you concerning belief systems and their effect on health and sickness. Keeping a positive outlook and attitude probably helps us to feel better. Maybe it doesn't prevent disease but at least for the time we have, we are happier and maybe healthier. - AOL

Sasquatch and Yeti are holographic projections from the collective conscious memories of Gigantopithecus and maybe Neanderthals and Denisovans.

The Jersey Devil is more absurd to believe in than a Sasquatch, because it is a "chimera"—i.e., a biologically impossible animal with attributes of different species. Wikipedia summarizes it thus:

"The common description is that of a kangaroo-like or wyvern-like creature with the head of a goat, leathery bat-like wings, horns, small arms with clawed hands, cloven hooves and a forked tail."

Great review Michael ! I am a "fan" of Seth and I am now reading "The early sessions". I think it's impossible to understand it if you do not read other books. In the various books the concepts reported in your review are taken repeatedly from various points of view. In the end it is a "philosophical theory" that I feel that opens the mind.

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