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I agree with you, but given the difficulty in determining if the mediums are in contact with spirits of deceased or using only psi capacity, current psychic researchers maybe would have to put more emphasis on the OBEs, NDEs and apparitions of living and deaceased. What do you think?

One of the things that bothers me about the super-psi proponents: they act as if saying "it is just telepathy, not spirits" eliminates the survival hypothesis.

But think about that. Even if it is "just" telepathy, this still proves that human minds communicate with each other through non-physical, non-material means, that our minds are connected somehow in ways that the materialist viewpoint does not allow. Our minds are more than just brain.

Telepathy does not prove survival, but it fits into a survivalist hypothesis better than it fits into a purely materialist one.

I read it too, last night. Philpott does manage to effectively toss a wet blanket over Hodgson and Piper.

As Alan Gauld (In the article you linked to in the previous post) points out, at some level it's necessarily ALL psi - whether the information comes from sitters or the disincarnate (or both).

So Phillpott's point becomes a bit diluted.

Unless we accept as an implication the black/white, on/off position that there is no post mortem survival of anything, ever, and that "mind" is a phenomenon distinct to an individual brain; a position that seems incorrect given that at least super-psi has pretty much been proven to exist.

I think we need a new paradigm. It would be based on One Mind, indestructible, with many expressions in many different bandwidths; expressions that can be retained indefinitely to greater or lesser extents, within bandwidths, depending on currently unknown variables.

However, NDEs seem to be a fly in the One Mind ointment. NDErs report maintaining individuality during the experience. Yes, they feel a connection to The One, but they they are still, somehow, distinctly themselves. Additionally, they meet distinct individuals that had once been physically incarnate who have also, somehow, maintained some kind of individuality.

This does not mean that there isn't One Mind at some level. It does, however, imply that there is not an instant personality obliterating merging with it absent the "pipe" physical body. And, if individuality is maintained without the pipe of the physical body, then, logically, a medium could contact a distinct deceased individual (e.g. good old Uncle George).

Having just read Joe Fisher's Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts over the past few days, I think we need to include the ever-present possibility that intentional lying and fabrication is occurring with these spirits - thus explaining to some degree the incorrect information being received.

Great post!

I'm not sure if this was submitted after I signed in, so it could be a double-post:

Julie Beischel did an double-blinded experiment with some of her research mediums who also do psychic readings. She presented her results at the SSE meeting this summer. The mediums report a completely different phenomenology when doing one sort of reading or the other. To them, psi feels more cold and "factive", whereas the mediumship readings feel more warm and personal, as you might expect. I forget the setup, but Julie's study tests whether this difference in phenomenology is reliable in determining whether the reading they did was for someone who was dead or alive. Apparently, it was reliable, which she took to confirm that the two forms of anomalous information retrieval are different, and to disconfirm the superpsi hypothesis.

>> Joe Fisher's Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts

Fascinating, thought-provoking, and very disturbing book.... especially in light of Fisher's later apparent suicide.

the super psi hypothesis is fairly well demolished by the birthmarks in children who remember past lives. BY what mechanism would superpsi produce birthmarks that directly correspond to the decedents death?

"However, NDEs seem to be a fly in the One Mind ointment. NDErs report maintaining individuality during the experience. Yes, they feel a connection to The One, but they they are still, somehow, distinctly themselves."

no one, maybe we can think of it this way. You know how when sunlight travels through a prism, the individual colors of the spectrum separate so we can see them?

So clear light is like the One Mind, and the colors of the spectrum represent individuality. Even when they're apparently merged and lost forever, the individual colors are always there, hidden within the clear light.

It takes a physical prism (a body) to manifest an individual within a physical realm, but that doesn't mean the individuals (colors) aren't still in existence, even when the body (prism) is gone.

And it takes ALL the colors (individuals) to make the perfect, clear, light (One Mind or God).

This is similar to Michael's analogy of air traveling through pipes to create individual souls, and then back out again to join up as the One Mind.

the super psi hypothesis is fairly well demolished by the birthmarks in children who remember past lives. BY what mechanism would superpsi produce birthmarks that directly correspond to the decedents death?

I reject the super psi hypothesis because once we accept paranormal data in survivalist context, it is unlikely that some entity is imitating all survivalists cases so that cases really are not survivalists.

However, it is conceivable how the super psi hypothesis could explain birthmarks of children who seem to remember past lives. Imagine that a pregnant woman unconsciously tuned for some reason a recently deceased individual, so that the mother transfers the memories of the deceased to their baby, but the mother shows psychokinesis on the body of the baby for originate birthmarks that match wounds deceased individual's death.

So we would have an imitation of a case of reincarnation without reincarnation. It is obvious that the only thing that proves is that it is logically possible to imagine cases that mimic reincarnation without being reincarnation, but there is no evidence of this happening.

Even though I meant it is a metaphor, my spectrum analogy is supported, in a sense, by the fact that the being of light (the One Mind?) is usually reported as a white or clear light, and individual souls are described as various hues (I'm thinking of what Michael Newton's informants say).

"I was unique yet I was the tiniest part of the whole." - excerpt from Mark Horton's NDE,
http://www.mindspring.com/~scottr/nde/markh.html

I have read this same sentiment in a number of NDE descriptions. You know how we seem to experience separation in this life over and over again? I believe that in heaven we will experience oneness and connectedness in the same way. The physics of this side seems to generally be separation and the physics of the other side will be oneness and connectedness.

Excerpt from RoseMarie's NDE:
"I was going backwards from what I perceived to be a place of division. ... [snip]... I was going backward as if I was going away from that place of separation."

http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Experiences/rosemarie_w_nde.htm

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