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I think many of us if not all of us get much more help from the other side then most ever believed possible.

http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/newsalem/salemtour.htm

I attended a one-room country school in Illinois with all eight grades in that one room with about 10 students and often our annual trip often consisted of visiting new Salem state park were honest Abe spent some of his early years as an adult.

This post bought back lots of childhood memories visiting that state park.

For those Lincoln fans the above link will give them a house-by-house tour of the small village of Salem, Illinois were Lincoln moved to in 1831 and stayed for six years.

Fascinating account, Michael, thank you for posting! I've admired Lincoln for years, though I don't know a great deal about him (I'm Australian). One of these days I'll dig out a good biography.

I just saw your reply to my comment in the grab-bag - I knew you'd have to close off comments, no probs. It's just my usual pattern of hitting blogs months or years after they've been posted (the joys of a Google search). Thank you for your comment about proof and one's own experience. That's pretty much how I feel about it. A hardened sceptic/atheist might say I'm deluding myself, but this happiness is no delusion.

Isn't the term "freethinker" ironic? Free to form opinions "on the basis of science, logic, and reason," but which "should not be influenced by authority, tradition, or any other dogma." But what if one's reason brings one to accept things that cannot be scientifically proven? It sounds all too much like "free to believe only what can be tested in the laboratory" - in other words, materialistic thinking, which seems close to being a dogma of its own at times. Lincoln sounds like he thought freely without cutting his emotions out of the matter, and expanded his ideas. An admirable man on many levels ... and he liked cats!

I think many of us if not all of us get much more help from the other side then most ever believed possible.

I am in complete agreement with the above statement.

Doris Kearns Goodwin downplays Lincoln's interest in the occult. As she tells it, he enjoyed the séances as performances, nothing more, and he was eager to uncover the trickery that lay behind the sometimes astonishing effects.

It seems to be quite a trend these days for some writers to try to downplay a person's interest in the paranormal many years after their death.

A classic example is Trevor Hall's "The Spiritualists" in which he implied that Sir William Crookes, the renowned scientist, must have been having an affair with Florence Cook which clouded his judgement.

He conveniently forgot the other witnesses to her mediumship or maybe they were all hallucinating!

It amuses me to read all these so-called experts when they haven't experienced a genuine materialisation seance and yet can freely rubbish another's experiences.

Maybe they were all having affairs with her?

Good point, Paul lol

"It seems to be quite a trend these days for some writers to try to downplay a person's interest in the paranormal many years after their death."

I don't know that it is a new trend, but another example is The Metaphysical Club by Louis Menand, an otherwise excellent history of American intellectuals in the latter half of the 19th century, which disposes of William James involvement in psychical research in less than two somewhat awkward pages.

I think many of us if not all of us get much more help from the other side then most ever believed possible.

William, you are probably right. I passed on a message to someone from a ghost claiming to be a spirit guide yesterday, and I wanted to know why I needed to pass the message along. Why didn't she just tell the guy what she wanted to herself, in his dreams or something? She said that usually that sort of thing was sufficient, but sometimes a message needs more emphasis. I guess having someone you don't know very well confirm something that you hoped was true isn't just your imagination might be useful.

What I still don't understand is why I had to be the one to pass the message along.

"What I still don't understand is why I had to be the one to pass the message along."

Perhaps because you are one of the few people with the ability to do so, Sandy.

I think Zerdini's right, Sandy. You were able to hear the message and pass it on - there aren't too many people about who can.

I so agree about having confirmation or verification or whatever you want to call it, from people you don't know. It happened to me last year - I had a reading done by a lady I'd never met, who had no way of knowing anything about me. She not only described my soulmate (who's been in Spirit a long time) but his son and son's partner, who turned up just for the heck of it, lol. She also passed on smart remarks my beloved was making about my shoe collection (men!) Altogether a very satisfying experience.

This is off topic, but those who enjoy Forteana may appreciate this news story about fish falling from the sky:

http://tiny.cc/dmBEV

I like Forteana. I gave a talk on physical mediumship at their 21st anniversary seminar (Unconvention) in London in 1994.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation08.html

http://www.school-for-champions.com/history/lincolnjfk.htm

http://healthandsurvival.com/2008/01/22/similarities-between-john-f-kennedy-and-abe-lincoln/

For those interested in the similarities between John Kennedy and honest Abe these three links may be of interest. Or not.

Visualizing Abe Lincoln sitting on a piano while it lifted off the floor with spirit power is an interesting visualization.

"sitting on a piano while it lifted off the floor with spirit power is an interesting visualization."

He wasn't the first and probably won't be the last.

"He wasn't the first and probably won't be the last."

but he was abe lincoln that makes it every interesting visualization for me at least.

Does it really matter who, or how many, was sitting on the piano?

Surely it is the demonstration of spirit power that is interesting.

According to David Thompson's website, Circle Of The Silver Cord, Abraham Lincoln has communicated - listen here:

http://www.silvercordcircle.com/Silvercord/Welcome_to_COSC_files/Abraham%20Lincoln%20Web%20clip.mp3


Zerdini,

How can you know that it is the spirits moving that piano and not pk on the part of living agents?

I've seen ghosts move things and make things appear out of nowhere, but I'm always afraid that maybe it is me and not the ghost responsible for such occurrences. That scares the hell out of me.

I'm not dogmatic on that issue, Sandy.

Occasionally it may be "pk on the part of living agents" but more usually it is intelligently directed by spirit people who have a greater knowledge of spirit forces.

Dr W. J. Crawford did a lot of experimental work with the medium Kathleen Goligher.

In his 1918 book, "On the Threshold of the Unseen", Sir William Barrett, professor of physics at Royal College in Dublin, tells of joining Crawford in one of Crawford’s many sittings with the Goligher circle.

At first, they heard knocks, and messages were spelled out as one of the sitters recited the alphabet. Barrett then observed a floating trumpet, which he tried unsuccessfully to catch.

“Then the table began to rise from the floor some 18 inches and remained suspended and quite level,”

Barrett wrote. “I was allowed to go up to the table and saw clearly no one was touching it, a clear space separating the sitters from the table.”

Barrett put pressure on the table to try to force it back to the floor. He exerted all his strength but was unable to budge it.

“Then I climbed on the table and sat on it, my feet off the floor, when I was swayed to and fro and finally tipped off,” Barrett continued the story. “The table of its own accord now turned upside down, no one touching it, and I tried to lift it off the ground, but it could not be stirred; it appeared screwed down to the floor.”

When Barrett stopped trying to right the table, it righted itself on its own accord. Apparently, the spirits were having a bit of fun with Barrett as he then heard “numerous sounds displaying an amused intelligence.”

Zerdini,

Why do ghosts need mediums? Why can't they just do all those things for researchers without having a medium handy?

I have one ghost named Arthur who is interested in living agent pk. I don't understand why someone who is dead is interested in research being conducted by living people. The ghost has actually suggested ways of conducting pk experiments.

I had a talk with Arthur (I call him Art, but I'm not sure he approves of that) about survival of consciousness. I figured that he should have all the answers, being a ghost and all. He said that the fact that he was sitting there talking to me did not prove survival of consciousness. He would only admit that it was suggestive of it. What a tough ghost.

Sandy

I never talk about ghosts it conjures up some weird ideas in people's minds. Most of those who have passed on refer to themselves as spirit people who have discarded their physical bodies.

"Why do ghosts need mediums? Why can't they just do all those things for researchers without having a medium handy?"

If only! It doesn't work that way. You may as well ask why we need a telephone to talk to someone a long distance away. Telepathy would be preferable.

"He said that the fact that he was sitting there talking to me did not prove survival of consciousness. He would only admit that it was suggestive of it. What a tough ghost"

Sounds like a skeptic who has passed over!

Zerdini, Arthur says he is not a disbeliever, but he thinks that a skeptical approach to controversial topics is prudent. He suggested that I read up on designing good scientific experiments.

Sandy,there are many who don't believe they've 'died'. Perhaps it's time for Arthur to move on instaed of hanging around earth conditions.

Zerdini, Arthur says he knows his body has died. He thinks that if I'm going to work with parapsychologists that I need some help. I'm not sure why he thinks I need help. I'm pretty sure that I can hold my own with researchers from other disciples. Even if I'm the lab rat instead of the scientist in this instance.

"Arthur says he knows his body has died."

Then how can he still entertain doubts about survival of consciousness?

Perhaps he is in sort of a dreamy, half-lucid state?


Michael,
He says it's not proof the way I want proof. It's suggestive. He tried to explain to me before that what I experience as Arthur the ghost is just a fragment of him from that bigger existence. Like the NDE place, where time doesn't really work the same as it does here. Things get sort of lost in translation.

I'm always a little surprised when people refer to spirits who interact with people on this plane as "needing to move on". It isn't necessarily so - they can be guides, guardians, or simply concerned for people still here. From my experience, Spirit isn't all that different from the earth plane anyway, in many respects. One still has a body, still lives in a way not too alien from life here. One might say it's the adulthood to the earthly plane's childhood. And anyway things happening here can be interesting in themselves, though I for one will be very happy to make my final crossing. I know who's going to be waiting to guide me over. :)

I like your way of explaining things you experience, Sandy. I hope you find a qualified parapsychologist who can design interesting tests that tells us something about how all this works. You are very special among people with mediumistic ability with your scientific attitude, so we could perhaps hope you'll attract some scientifically minded spirits.. Nowadays we rarely hears from newly departed parapsychologists.. Myers did supposedly communicate for years, but has anybody heard about any proposed spirit communication from Rhine or Stevenson? The Scole group talked about opposition against giving evidence from inside the spirit world.. Is it so, or was it just convinient to stop at that time as infrared cameras were just to be introduced as sceptics say? (The opposing spirit group theory/explanation has been talked about when the Spiricom stopped working too, I think?)

Back to the subject of this blogpost.. There is a fairly new book on Abraham Lincoln's contact with mediums: The psycic life of Abraham Lincoln by Susan B. Martinez. I've got it, but haven't had time to read it all. Seems to cover the subject in a believable way, though i'm not certain how much more knowledge it gives than the old sources covered above (hopefully some new info.) While checking who was the author at amazon.com I saw the book talked about in your post "was Abraham Lincoln a spiritualist?" currently reissued in printed form under the name: Seances in Washington: Abraham Lincoln and Spiritualism during the Civil War by Nettie Colburn Maynard and Irene McGarvie.

Thanks Roger,
I hadn't really thought about how my background in science might affect who communicates with me. I guess it would help to explain some of my more recent ghosts. There have been a few dead mediums who worked with parapsychologists when they were alive. I don't think Arthur was a medium, but he did seem to have some interesting personal experiences related to researching these things. He was telling me about OBEs last night. I have difficulty believing him, but then again, I have difficulty believing I can talk to him in the first place.

Zerdini: "It seems to be quite a trend these days...to downplay a person's interest in the paranormal...after their death.

"A classic example is Trevor Hall...impl[ying]...Sir William Crookes...must have been having an affair with Florence Cook...

"He conveniently forgot the other witnesses...or maybe they were all hallucinating!"


These days we're lucky he didn't explicitly accuse Crookes and the other witnesses of roastin'er!

Quite!

Sandy, have a look at this:

http://metgat.gaia.com/blog

Thanks, Zerdini. I have trouble with the material on Michael Tymn's site. Not that I have any issues with him, I find reading about mediumship kind of upsetting sometimes. I know that this is something really, really stupid to admit, but I couldn't even look at that site without my deceased Grandma sitting beside me and encouraging me to do so. I'm so afraid that I might be... like a medium or something.

"I don't think Arthur was a medium, but he did seem to have some interesting personal experiences related to researching these things."

Hmm. He wouldn't happen to be this guy, would he?

http://www.icem.cc/tribute.html

My Arthur looks older and has less hair. But he does kind of look like that guy in the picture. He tried looking younger around me, but I'm more comfortable with him being old and somehow "safer". I don't know if this is him. I really don't.

Michael, I had actually come across the site you gave earlier. I googled the name Arthur and looked for any parapsychology references. Arthur Findley was one name that came up, but that didn't fit at all. When I saw the site you referenced the first time, I just felt uncomfortable and went on to something else. It still makes me feel kind of sick. I just don't what to think of it.

Well, if it is Arthur Ellison, tell him I liked his book "Science and the Paranormal."

:-)

Ellison was a philosophical idealist; i.e., he believed that what we call reality is purely a mental construction. It's an interesting viewpoint, though one I've never been too keen to embrace.

Society for the Preservation and Promulgation of the Name Arthur

Purposes (the purposes are serious, the society is less so)

To foster use of the name Arthur
To encourage new parents to name their boy babies Arthur {grin!}

http://www.geol.ucsb.edu/faculty/sylvester/NORSK%20TEPHRA%20FORENING/arthur_society.html

Well, if it is Arthur Ellison, tell him I liked his book "Science and the Paranormal."

:-)

Ellison was a philosophical idealist; i.e., he believed that what we call reality is purely a mental construction. It's an interesting viewpoint, though one I've never been too keen to embrace.

Professor Arthur Ellison was a guest speaker at a seminar I organised in 1977.

Prof. Arthur Ellison spoke on "Some Experiences and Thoughts on Physical Mediumship of 40 years ago".

The Professor started attending séances in the 1950's and experienced a variety of wonderful phenomena.

Amongst the many things he witnessed were materialised figures (one of which melted into the floor on leaving), eight bunches of flowers apported at one séance and trumpets whirling around his hands in red light.

Perhaps the most fascinating though was to see, at one foot from his face and in red light, the arrival of an apport. He saw a pink glow in the medium's outstretched hands. Then something solidified and dropped down into the cupped hands.

It was a lovely pink rose. Most unusual - apports normally just seem to arrive with no indication of the mechanism involved.

Michael, he says "You're welcome."

Michael, if you don't believe me, that's OK. I don't believe me right now either.

It's not that I believe or disbelieve. I don't know what to think.

You might ask him about George. George is mentioned in his book. And George is not a person or an animal.

That is, if you want to "test the spirits."


Michael, I don't think this is right. I'm really lousy at this stuff. Actually, I'm really happy to be wrong. If I'm right, I'll just throw up anyway. So it's great if I'm wrong.

He explained this in a way that is too personal to explain in an open forum. I may not get this right trying to interpret too much on my own from the personal example he gave. George is Arthur's connection to the light. Like a better/higher version of Arthur. Not god, but maybe somehow sort of closer to that.

Please tell me I'm wrong. Honestly, I'll feel much better when you do. If I'm right, I don't want to know.

I'm sorry that I became so emotional and perhaps irrational about answering your question, Michael. Truthfully, I would like to know what a George is. Please don't ask me any more questions for Arthur. I'm not a happy medium.

I finally found George. Now I don't have to read the book.

http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2008/01/pure-gold.html

"George is Arthur's connection to the light. Like a better/higher version of Arthur. Not god, but maybe somehow sort of closer to that. Please tell me I'm wrong."

You're wrong. Sort of.

"George" was Ellison's term for the lower unconscious, the part of the mind that automates certain behaviors, like driving a car. Apparently the nickname "George" is used by pilots to describe the autopilot.

On the other hand, Ellison thought that the unconscious could be a direct link to the higher self, so in this sense George could be seen as a "connection to the light."

I liked the part where you pointed out that I was wrong. Thanks, Michael!

=)

Has Arthur Ellison made a spirit return? - David Fontana seems to think so:

APPARENT POST-MORTEM COMMUNICATIONS FROM PROFESSOR ARTHUR ELLISON

by DAVID FONTANA

The late Arthur Ellison took a particular interest in research into the possibilities of survival after physical death and in the production of paranormal physical phenomena. The present paper details four instances of such phenomena which, at face value, may be associated with his wish to communicate his continuing existence.

See JSPR Abstracts 2003

Zerdini, If Arthur has done this before, why can't he just talk to whoever it was he talked to last time? I'm not very tuned into him. I couldn't answer Michael's question. A real medium could have done that much at least.

Sandy, If Arthur has been able to talk to you in such a way that no-one else hears him that makes you a medium whether you realise it or even want it.

As you are probably aware there are different types of mediumistic abilities e.g clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience.

Your experiences,as described by you, strongly suggest you are clairaudient.

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