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I have read this book several times and it is a worthwhile book to read. His level of documentation is outstanding. I cannot think of anything I read in that book at this time that disagreed with my own personal research. From my point of view he nailed it.

It is one of my keeper books in my library. Research into the paranormal is a most interesting research. I have noticed since I retired I have not opened up one of my business books. They no longer interest me.

I think at some stage of our lives the material world has less and less interest for a person.

“The impression I get from comparing these reports with NDEs is that the NDEr is something like a visitor on the celestial plane.”

Some books I have read teach that we actually visit these different planes during our sleep. I have no idea if there is any validity to this but one night I dreamt that I was on another planet much like earth but everything was cleaner and a much better place to live. Oh the colors were so much brighter and beautiful. That is what impressed me the most the beautiful colors of everything including the cars. Yes they had cars.

It may have just been a dream and wishful thinking but wondered if anyone else has had such a dream. In the dream I knew I was just visiting. Again no idea if this has any validity to it.

Interesting, mediums reporting life reviews from the dead. . . it almost seems to be lining up now.

"I think at some stage of our lives the material world has less and less interest for a person."

The stage varies. I think I'm an odd case. At 23 I can't peel away from it, and I'm far from retired. It never ceases to feel both incredibly important and exciting.

Actually I've noticed a lot of people my age with more interest. My niece at 14 was telling me how she wants to study spirits.

But there's a reasonable explanation why. Fear of death is a real drag on all our lives. This research helps one understand what affects us all. So unlike studying something boring like physics, which has no real bearing unless you play pool, this research directly effects your life, attitudes, philosophies, etc etc.

Michael,

Great posting, Crookall's work deserves more discussion than it has received in recent years. It's all very convincing stuff - my main concern is how much of the 'mediumistic communication' could have been culled from mystical material from Theosophy - ie. people in the late 19th century having out-of-body experiences ('astral travel') and describing the other lands. What prompts me to think along these lines is the silver cord, which doesn't seem to be as fashionable in the modern age (as far as I have seen).

Putting that issue aside: Apart from the obvious standout crossovers between mediumistic communications and NDEs that Crookall has pointed out for us, there are other lesser known elements which might offer even more support. For instance, in Mrs. Piper's "dream"-NDE, she mentions a building with semi-transparent pillars. This diaphanous aspect to buildings has also been cited in modern NDEs, as well as in shamanic and mystical experiences.

Heather Sloan, the nurse who recounted her experience in 'The day I died' spoke about being attached by a wispy cord. It's not common but it does crop up.

Michael,

This information is very similar to the work done by Michael Newton, a (now retired) hypnotherapist who specialized in regressing people to the in-between life state for several decades. He wrote two excellent books that I recommend you investigate, 'Journey of Souls' and 'Destiny of Souls'.

....also life between life by Joel Whitton. This book examined the inter-life between incarnations through hypnotic regression. Here to, there are similarities with NDE and mediumistic communications.

"This diaphanous aspect to buildings has also been cited in modern NDEs, as well as in shamanic and mystical experiences."

Another similarity is the idea that discarnates communicate telepathically. This crops up in mediumistic communications and in NDEs. (I don't know if it occurs in shamanism, but I wouldn't be surprised.)

Yet another similarity is the emphasis on learning. Both "communicators" and NDErs sometimes stress that one of the main purposes of one's afterlife existence is to learn more, and that people spend much of their time in schools, libraries, lecture halls, etc.

There's also a common emphasis on beautiful nature scenes lit by a brilliant ambient light that casts no shadow. A recurring motif is talk of flower gardens with more brilliant colors than those we know on Earth.

Conversely, there's very little in either mediumship or NDEs to support the conventional Christian imagery of playing harps, singing praises to God, kneeling before God's golden throne, sitting on a cloud, etc. One might expect more of this kind of thing if one's cultural conditioning were exclusively responsible for afterlife reports (though I'm sure cultural influences do play some role).

Don Piper's book "90 Minutes in Heaven" does report an NDE with very conventioanl Christian imagery, but it is one of the few. Amusingly, while Piper - a fundamentalist Christian - believes his NDE was genuine, he is suspicious of most other NDEs because they lack the pearly gates, angel choirs, and streets of gold that he encountered!

Incidentally, the person posting above as "michael" is not me. My comments are always signed "Michael Prescott."

It might be better if "michael" were to use a different screen name - nickname, last initial, etc. - to prevent any possible confusion.

" . . . in NDEs, the early life review is frequently seen as an opportunity for passing judgment on oneself . . . "

Good work, Michael. I'm enjoying your recent observations on these historical accounts.

As to the above quote, maybe it's a matter of emphasis. It's true that many, or even most NDErs, do describe some sadness and regret (of a sort) during the initial review. But few, if any, as I recall, feel comfortable using the word "judgement."

They don't even speak much of "SELF-judgement," but focus, rather, on more therapeutic concepts like understanding, and compassion for oneself and others.

Anyway, that's how it seems to me.

I like what these Crookall reports have to say. They continue the adventure in a logical way from where the NDE leaves off, and are exactly what you'd expect from a benevolent universe. The first review, is more supportive, while the second one points to the "work" that needs to be done in future incarnations.

anyone know where you can get a cheap copy of this book?

“This information is very similar to the work done by Michael Newton, a (now retired) hypnotherapist who specialized in regressing people to the in-between life state for several decades. He wrote two excellent books that I recommend you investigate, 'Journey of Souls' and 'Destiny of Souls'.”

There are some similarities but Newton did not discover a Hades condition on the other side. Now there could be several reasons for this. One the people that come to him for hypnosis may be advanced enough as a soul that they do not reside in a Hades environment.

Some of his findings found soul mates that get together later in their lives which many past life hypnotherapists have also found to be valid. Also his work supports the idea of soul groups or bands that incarnate several lives together. The book there is only love is a good soul mate story based on past life hypnosis.

But his work needs to be evaluated and practiced by other hypnotherapists as he also recommends in his books. Live between life hypnosis is interesting and does help to validate many conditions on the other side.

Thank goodness for that, Michael, I thought you'd been smoking something. :)

I hope I don't get anybody impersonating me, by making dumb comments and failing to post links properly. :)

"anyone know where you can get a cheap copy of this book?"

Try this site:

http://snipurl.com/tkmxs

And this one:

http://snipurl.com/tkmy2

the link is here Mr Wood:
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Between-Joel-Whitten/dp/0446347620

Thanks for you're constructive comments.
M.

Michael (Duggan)
My comments(about posting links) were honestly aimed at myself though on reading it now I can see how it might be taken to mean you. Apologies.

(I never post links correctly...and have made some dumb comments)

From what little I've read about hypnotic regression evidence, the patients' descriptions of their existence between earthly lives match up quite well with the Crookall material. But I wonder how reliable the testimony of hypnotized subjects is. I'll have to look into it further; maybe I'll get Whitten's book.

Another area that conforms pretty well with the Crookall material is Induced After-Death Communications. (Google that term, and the "official" Web site will come up.) These visions typically show the deceased person surrounded by bright light, often in a beautiful environment, expressing the wisdom of an expanded consciousness -- all of which dovetails with NDEs and mediumistic communications.

It's the way this stuff all hangs together (albeit with certain discrepancies) that makes me feel there's a reality to it. The range of possible hallucinatory experiences is unlimited; think of the endlessly varying content of dreams. The content of NDEs, mediumistic messages, deathbed visions, and IADCs seems dramatically more circumscribed.

I just came across a book on my shelf called "Other Lives, Other Selves" (1987), by Roger J. Woolger, which concerns hypnotic regressions. On pp. 293-297 he briefly recounts some of his patients' reports of between-life experiences. He sums up:

"A lot of these past death experiences resemble the well-known reports of Dr. Raymond Moody and by Dr. Kenneth Ring and others. From the testimony of hundreds who have been declared clinically dead and who have afterward been revived we now have similar stories of floating out of the body and above the earth, of celestial lights, of dead relatives and spirit figures in white. About the only major experience reported in such studies that I cannot corroborate is that of feeling propelled through a tunnel, but my private sample of cases cannot be compared to the rigorous research work of these investigators. Even so, the apparent resemblances are striking enough for me to be persuaded personally that these are archetypal or universal experiences of death and transition that are recorded in the collective unconscious of the individual."

He says that, of his patients who recalled the dying and post-death experience, most reported that death was "a peaceful separation" from the vicissitudes of life. "About 95 percent" of them remembered "floating above the body and eventually on up." Some saw "brief visions of light." About five percent reported hellish experiences -- falling "into strange vortices or barely describable dark places." The majority of the whole sample remembered being quickly reincarnated. Of the rest, some saw spirit figures, "frequently ... departed companions or family from the life just remembered." Some also met "old teachers or gurus from the life just lived or from another one," or a "robed figure in white who radiates love and wisdom," or a group of such figures, who helped "review and advise the departed personality about the lessons of the life lived."

"One woman reported being taken by such a luminous being to a celestial temple, where she was shown a huge book in which the life she had just remembered and 'many more' were clearly written.... Celestial gardens, mountains, and islands are sometimes glimpsed.... Visions of Jesus will often occur for those who remember devout Christian lives or lives of innocent martyrdom, but they seem ... contingent upon those particular lives," and non-Christian imagery is common among patients recalling lives in a non-Christian culture. On p. 302 he reports a detailed account of a life review, which includes the idea of feeling all the pain and suffering that one has inflicted on others.

All this dovetails pretty well with NDEs, but remember that the book was published after "Life After Life" was published, so it is possible that the patients drew their imagery from popular depictions of NDEs. It is also possible that the hypnotist unwittingly encouraged his patients to report these details. Hypnotized patients tend to tell the therapist what they think he wants to hear, so such reports must be taken with caution.

much stronger evidence would come from regressions done before 1975, and the publication of Life after Life. It would be interesting to compare reports pre and post this date.

Fascinating post, Michael. Another great resource is the Near-Death Experience Research Foundation -- they publish NDEs from all over the world that are constantly being updated:

http://www.nderf.org/NDERF_NDEs.htm

Could anyone shed some light ona phenomenon that took place
as my mother passed away in my arms, in a hospital setting, in a dim private room. As she had taken her last breath and I became away of this fact, a warm golden glow of light emanated from my right shoulder - I had her embraced in my left arm, and then was gone. There was no way that any interior light could have caused this, nor reflection of any kind. I would be interested to know if others have experienced this, and whether it signified a journey ahead.......

CM, I've read in books about life after death about people seeing lights around or moving away from people as they crossed over. It's not a universal phenomena but it's seen often enough to be have been written about and remarked upon.

CM, I've seen lights from people who have recently passed away. I don't know what the lights mean, but they usually feel very happy.

The nurse that attended to Carl Jung during his illness in 1944, described seeing a bright glow around him.

An ex-girlfriend of mine worked with the dying for many years and she also reported(reluctantly-she wasn't interested in life after death) this type of thing, mainly visions of deceased loved ones(ie seen by the dying patients). These phenomena were ignored or dismissed by the vast majority of medical staff and the nurses did not mention it to the doctors.
Anyone who thinks that science has explained these phenomena away is mistaken.Science generally ignores them, because it doesn't have an explanation that answers the data, apart from the usual suspects.

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