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Brilliant articles on Sir ACD. Certainly the most level headed analysis I've ever read about them. Thanks Michael and please keep it up!

I've enjoyed these posts on Doyle, the favorite whipping boy of skeptics, invariably portrayed as gullible and credulous.

What's left out by debunkers is that for a long time Doyle was quite skeptical. Doyle wasn't brilliant (in the sense that Alfred Russel Wallace was brilliant), but he was certainly bright and honest. But when he was finally persuaded about mediumistic communication, his honesty permitted no other reaction but to embrace it and experiment with the phenomena. Perhaps he wasn't nuanced in his understanding, but I always thought there was a lot that was interesting in his writing on Spiritualism.

One may well ask oneself where, outside the ranks of the Spiritualists,
are these gifts or these observances to be found in any of those Churches
which profess to be the branches of this early root?

Yes they are, look into some Christian charismatic and Pentecostal Churches and you'll see many that embrace the "gifts" and promote them today.

"Seek and ye shall find" :-)

“I've enjoyed these posts on Doyle, the favorite whipping boy of skeptics, invariably portrayed as gullible and credulous.“

It appears that the ultra skeptics portray anyone that does not believe as they do as gullible and credulous and lack their level of intelligence.

"For the great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearances, as though they were realities, and are often more influenced by the things that seem than by those that are.": Niccolo Machiavelli

Exactly good posts on Doyle

"For the great majority of mankind...are often more influenced by the things that seem than by those that are.": Niccolo Machiavelli

And Machiavelli is your spiritual authority??

I don't think Machiavelli had any spiritual tendancies (if such a movement even existed then) but it's a good quote.

"I don't think Machiavelli had any spiritual tendencies (if such a movement even existed then) but it's a good quote."

Thank you. Sometimes quotes say more in a sentence or two than others are able to say in a whole book.

Physical experiences are very powerful influences in our lives, some more than others.

The physical world appears so real but when we are older and look back on our experiences in this physical world these experiences appears to be like a dream.

I suspect this is one of the reasons Dr Hora called his book Beyond the Dream.


The physical world appears so real but when we are older and look back on our experiences in this physical world these experiences appears to be like a dream. - william
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"I felt an understanding about life, what it was, is. As if it was a dream in itself. It's so very hard to explain this part. I'll try, but my words limit the fullness of it. I don't have the words here, but I understood that it really didn't matter what happened in the life experience, I knew/understood that it was intense, brief, but when we were in it, it seemed like forever. I understood that whatever happened in life, I was really ok, and so were the others here." - excerpt from Michelle M's NDE, http://nderf.org/michelle_m's_nde.htm

"I felt an understanding about life, what it was, is. As if it was a dream in itself. It's so very hard to explain this part. I'll try, but my words limit the fullness of it. I don't have the words here, but I understood that it really didn't matter what happened in the life experience,

Art not sure this is exactly correct as I think life experiences do impact our consciousness and this reflects our consciousness on the other side. I think our evolution of consciousness depends on these life experiences.


“Have you shared this experience with others? Yes
2 months...My husband didn't believe me. My Mother didn't believe me. They both cut me off before I could tell them the fullness of it”

This is the problem with trying to share our experiences with someone else. Almost if not impossible to do. No way can I share my spiritual hug with anyone else. This is the reason for the journey: personal experience.

Have you shared this experience with others? Yes
2 months...My husband didn't believe me. My Mother didn't believe me. They both cut me off before I could tell them the fullness of it”

I had this very same problem with my NDE with one particular family member, who literally cut me off and said it was nonsense, laughed and with one look, confirmed me as a "liar" as I was explaining, I did'nt bother finishing, I realised sharing with the wrong people amounts to nothing but worse, you realise how little faith some people have in you. It hurts the most when its those who are the closest.

It reminds of Christ's experience in his home town and with his own family, the preaching in the synagogue story say's it all.

Art not sure this is exactly correct as I think life experiences do impact our consciousness and this reflects our consciousness on the other side. I think our evolution of consciousness depends on these life experiences. - william
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I think everyone becomes instantly enlightened upon entering the light. It's a holographic universe thing, part of those feelings of oneness and connectedness that so many near death experiencers talk about. During the life review feeling the emotions and hearing the thoughts of those we interacted with during our lives, essentially becoming the other person. The life review is a holographic experience par excellance. Numerous near death experiencers say they had "all knowledge" and if they wanted to know about something they had merely to focus their attention on that subject. Feelings of "oneness" means they literally felt like they were part of the entire Universe.

excerpt from Mark Horton's NDE: "I suddenly just relaxed completely and allowed "myself" to dissolve (?) open up (?) merge (?) into the "oneness" that surrounded me." http://www.mindspring.com/~scottr/nde/markh.html

The beautiful thing about it is that we don't lose ourselves entirely after crossing back over into the Spiritual Universe. We are able to maintain our uniqueness and be connected at the same time.

Mark Horton says, "I was unique yet I was the tiniest part of the whole."

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