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This is interesting speculation, Michael.

R.M. Bucke, who compiled the volume Cosmic Consciousness which I’ve mentioned in previous posts, was convinced that whoever wrote the Shakespeare material had experienced a transcendent form of consciousness of some sort. Bucke spends about fifteen pages discussing Shakespeare’s Sonnets, arguing that these were addressed to the Cosmic sense itself, and made little sense otherwise.

Bucke championed Francis Bacon as the author of the Shakespeare works, but regardless of authorship, perhaps the best indicator that these were written by a transcendent soul is their continued relevance today, some 400 years later.

I've heard it suggested that Charles Dickens may have had an NDE, or may have heard such accounts, as his story "A Christmas Carol" has more than apparent NDE Elements within it. Viewing the past in a life review, viewing the present veridically (OBE) while unseen, witnessing future events, coming back from the experience a changed man, having met spirits that guided him through the process, etc. Ebenezer Scrooge went through all of the elements of a classic NDE.

It's amazing to me how many verses in the New Testament have a NDE/holographic flavor about them. Makes me think that perhaps Jesus was a near death experiencer. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, judge not that ye be not judged, whatever you so that also shall ye reap, God is One, God is Light, God is Love, etc. Jesus prayed that we all be one in the Garden of Gethsemanee, and there are many more parallels to NDE's. Many eastern religions also have NDE parallels. - Art

arthur suggesting that jesus had a NDE will go over well with your christian friends as jesus has not only been thought of as a son of god but god itself.

my favorite passage in the new testament is that the meek shall inherit the earth. never heard a preacher get that one right in their sermons.

and of course he stated this at the time that rome controlled the known world with all of their power.

the book cosmic consciousness suggests that jesus was at the right age to awaken to cosmic consciousness.

I've read that Lord Burghley possibly hired the pirates to kill de Vere, his son in law. This from a book by Paul Streitz that purports de Vere to be the son of Queen Elizabeth, through the rape of an uncle when she was 15 years old.

In line with this thinking, de Vere would be heir to Elizabeth's throne, which is why Burghley married into the de Vere family. His daughter, the granddaughter of a merchant, would be queen.

While de Vere was traveling in Europe, Anne, his wife, gave birth to their first child, a daughter. For years, de Vere did not believe he was the father (this theme can be found throughout the Shakespeare canon, as can the theme of changeling babies, hence the notion that de Vere was the changeling of a young Elizabeth). De Vere was estranged from his wife for 5 years because he believed to have been cuckolded.

With and unpredictable son-in-law and future king, and the ticket for Burghley to attain the ultimate heights of power -- a daughter who is Queen, it's not too far fetched to imagine the powerful Machiavellian statesman orchestrating the assassination of Edward de Vere via the pirates.

De Vere had been and would always be a thorn in the side of Burghley and Burghley has been accused of and associated with much worse crimes than the contract murder of a rogue courtier.

Nevertheless, Michael, I like the way you lay out your case. It shows that you are an intelligent writer. I wonder if you have plans to explore the Shakespeare authorship question in literary form -- and please forgive me if you already have.

“Makes me think that perhaps Jesus was a near death experiencer.”

Art, I’d suggest that you might have this backwards. It strikes me that NDE testimony largely confirms the teachings of all of the major religions, but the experience of higher consciousness encountered in an NDE is achieved only upon temporary expiration of the physical body.

The testimony of the founders of the various religions, coupled with the testimony of those of all faiths who have had direct realizations of a deeper reality that we refer to as “mystics”, leads me to believe that the realization of the divine nature of existence is always available, though rare, and can be achieved while one is right here on earth, fully “alive”, though they all seem to recognize that part of the experience is the realization they were previously “dead” on some level before the event.

It seems to me that what the religions together are telling us is that this level of existence we’re currently in is entirely spiritual as well – the moral teachings of all of the faiths are the consequence of the realization of a deeper reality while right here on earth, but are not necessarily the path one must travel to achieve that realization (though it certainly can’t hurt).

The reality described by those who have achieved enlightenment appear to describe a state of mind; a psychological event if you will. It also seems that when that state of mind manifests in an individual, they find themselves in the position of the man in Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, trying to describe sunlight to those of us who have known nothing but shadows.

"they find themselves in the position of the man in Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, trying to describe sunlight to those of us who have known nothing but shadows."

Very well stated. I spent some time posting on another blog where several people posting on that blog thought they knew that "sunlight" but when someone offered a different view (me) of what the sunlight may be, they attacked with such a fervor that gave them away and showed clearly they were indeed still in the shadows.

Hey, Arthur! Back on our toyboy Josh:an: Have you heard his song "To Where You Are"? Love song to a dear departed. So schmaltzy and so beautiful. Sniff, honnnnnnnnnnk... :-)

Sorry, didn't sign. That Josh Groban fawn-fest above was me, Ginny.

Hey, Arthur! Back on our toyboy Josh:an: Have you heard his song "To Where You Are"? - ginny
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Yes, it's on one of my CD's. My favorite Josh Groban song is "you're still you." I think it says something profound about life after death and it brings tears to my eyes. Like I said, I think Josh must be an Angel. No human that I know of has a voice like that. - Art

To Where You Are - Josh Groban
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-_itEo3y6WI
You're still you - Josh Groban
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-dK_TOg1KRM

I will put a link to your website on the website of the Shakespeare-Oxford Society in the News and Events page. Nice article!

Hey, Art,you may be right. He does have that sweet innocent face, and those curly locks. Hmmmm..... :-) Thanks for the links! I'll go swoon some now.

Hey, Art,you may be right. He does have that sweet innocent face, and those curly locks. Hmmmm..... :-) Thanks for the links! I'll go swoon some now. - ginny
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I wonder what his parents think of his talent. How proud they must be. It can only be considered a gift from God. It's not like you can teach a kid to sing like that. All the voice lessons in the world couldn't do it. Can you imagine raising a kid like that? I wonder how old was he when they figured it out? Middle School? Where was he? Choir? Did he just open his mouth one day and that voice came out? Every time I listen to "your still you" it brings tears to my eyes. My mom died when I was fifteen years old and I often wonder if I'll recognize her in Heaven? What will our relationship be like? That's why that song means to much to me. I'm soon to turn 55 years old and I still miss her. It's been 40 years since she died but hardly a day goes by where I don't think about her. For some reason Josh Groban's singing makes me think about heaven and spiritual thoughts. I wonder if he knows he has that effect on people? - Art

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