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The only criticism I can make of your comments in this series, Michael, is that you might be emphasizing the wrong thing about Rand and Hickman. For me, the significance is not what it suggests about Rand's psychological state or judgment, but rather the question of whether people like Hickman are actually in line with -- or at least fostered by -- the values of Objectivism. That Rand pointed to him as an example of her ideal type makes one wonder if, in the real world, Objectivist values plug into and exacerbate the negative aspects of human nature that lead to twisted minds such as Hickman's.

Varenius,

To be honest, that same thought occurred to me. We have seen an explosive increase in the number of sociopathic killers over the last half century. The murder of strangers used to be rare; most homicides involved people who knew each other, which is why most homicides were easily solved. Now a very large number of murders involve people with no personal connection whatsoever. These are crimes motivated by a kind of random, roving hostility or a psychotic fixation on a certain "type" of victim. The killers in these cases are completely alienated, antisocial personalities.

Now, I don't want to push my thesis too far ... but some of the ideas espoused and popularized by Rand have gained wide currency throughout American society during the same half century. I'm not attributing this cultural trend to Rand alone, but she was part of it. I don't say that Rand-style ultra-individualism is all bad. It has led to some good things. But ... has injecting a quasi-Nietzschean virus into our cultural bloodstream also led to an increase in a certain type of mental disease? Has the "me"-centered, egoistic, aggressively atheistic (and, I would say, materialistic) philosophy promoted by Rand and others given us an epidemic of Hickmans?

Please understand, I'm not saying that a person sits down, reads Rand, and becomes a serial killer! Most criminals have never even heard of Ayn Rand. But when ideas become part of the very atmosphere we breathe, they may be breathed in by people who have never read a book in their lives. And some of those people may not be equipped to handle the destabilizing effects of these ideas.

I don't know if there's any truth to this notion, but yes, I have been thinking along those lines.

I have been thinking about this a lot for reasons unknown to me. I don't even consider myself an Objectivist, however, I feel a great injustice has been done here.

Let's first consider the context. It is a journal, meaning it was intended only for her to read. She probably doesn't elaborate on what she finds dispicable about him, or on how his crimes were wrong, simply because she doesn't need to affirm her ethical stances to herself in a journal. (Note that this is just my hypothesis) Also, what she learned about him would have only been through newspapers, since TV was not big and neither was radio at that time. Also, it was not customary for newspapers to describe gore in print (although it may have). So basically all she would have to go on about his character are his quotes and the peoples' reaction. If she liked what he said, then it wouldn't matter what he actually did because she was in the process of character creating and analyzing society at that point to write her books.

Anyone who knows Ayn Rand's philosophy at all knows that a quote like "what is good for me is right" is much along the lines of Objectivism, although taken way out of context. Objectivism promotes rational self-interest, which argues that doing what's best for yourself (without hurting others) is what you are morally obligated to do. So, it is no wonder how a quote like that could intrigue her.

There are several arguments against rational self-interest, but that was not the intent of your argument. You attacked Ayn Rand as a person, in order to discredit her philosophy in general, which is low.

One of the first tenets of Randian ethics is that no man may initiate the use of force on another. She wrote this in open publication for all to read and in the context she thought was displayable. This stands firmly against the actions of murder, rape, robbery, etc. So to suggest that she condoned these actions or men who committed them is bunk.

Thank you

Chris,

If you're going to say you're not an Objectivist, you might want to choose a different email address. "Galtsgulch" is kind of a giveaway.

The gory details of Hickman's crime were indeed reported in the newspapers of the day. (They didn't call 'em the Roaring Twenties for nothin'.) Nearly all the info I presented was taken from contemporaneous newspaper accounts. Rand followed the case closely enough to know the day-by-day events of the trial, so she surely knew what Hickman had done. She just didn't care. She mentions not one word about Hickman's 12-year-old victim in all the hundreds of words she penned about the case.

If you've read Rand's journals, you know that she did present her ethical positions in detail, even when writing for herself.

Objectivists typically bend themselves into pretzel-like shapes to avoid acknowledging Rand's obvious psychological problems. The facts are, Rand knew exactly what Hickman had done and admired him anyway. Make of this what you will.

First, my email address has nothing to do with my personal beliefs. I have another email address labeled bodnimble@yahoo.com, does that mean I'm a man of nimbleness? I have had that email address for ages, and I would rather not change it.

Secondly, I never said Rand had a perfect psyche, and I don't know where that whole point you made came from.

Lastly, what does admiring someone have to do with your philosophy. If you are implying that Rand spouted the philosophy of killing people, then you are being ridiculous. If you are implying anything other than that, then your points are moot.

Rand may as well been a raving lunatic, it wouldn't change the fact that some of what she says is right and some was probably wrong. Any logician knows that it is the argument you evaluate not the arguer.

So I think Rand's personal life should not be included in evaluating her philosophy. Just as I don't scrutinize about how crazy Neitzche was, I wouldn't do the same with Rand either. And anyone who would is not going to get far in philosophy.

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